Effects of CSA 2010?

do they stay with a driver for three years, whom ever the driver operates for? if so, i re-itterate my above long winded post

 

load securement and weight violations will not be counted against the carriers, from what i read in a trucking magazine

this is a clue that some carriers had a hand in writing the new point system

 

I think the work Visa fast track will be very temporary. They´ll open the USA up to Mexican trucking companies. That´s where this is all going. Not just international runs either but point to point domestic runs as well. It´s just a matter of time.

 

Nope. Quit getting your info from a trucker rag and check

http://csa2010.fmcsa.dot.gov/


I know hyperbole, and innuendo are much more entertaining. However this new record system( and that is all it is folks ) is going to change the way the industry is tracked. You might want to know the facts and not what "The Driver" says

 

I read the website you linked to, for 2 hours. Please show me where it says that weight violations will be violations that will be tracked with a point value awarded to the carrier, for that matter, load violations (including securement) dont seem to have a point value for carriers.

Maybe I overlooked it, in which case I yeild to you. Did you find it?

 

load securement comes under DRIVER responsibility, not the carrier.

go here http://www.landlinemag.com/todays_news/Daily/2009/Dec09/121409/SMSMethodology.pdf and start reading from about page 85 and on........points for a driver are from 7 to 10 for each infraction.......how can it be a carrier infraction, when they are NOT loading the trailer but the driver IS, or he's there watching it to be loaded......??
so for this one, Rocky is correct.........

 

All information obtained from inspections, and accidents will be used to calculate a carriers CSMS score.


All violations go into that score. Now yes there are certain area termed "BASICS" that carry weight for a driver. These are considered critical areas of concern. They are represented in both the carriers, and the drivers record.

1. Will CSA 2010 assign safety ratings to individual CMV drivers? I heard that CSA 2010 is designed to rate CMV drivers and to put many of them out of work this summer.
   No. Under CSA 2010, individual CMV drivers will not be assigned safety ratings or Safety Fitness Determinations (SFDs). Consistent with the current safety rating regulations (49 CFR part 385), individual drivers who operate independently as a “motor carrier” (i.e. have their own USDOT number, operating authority, and insurance) will continue to be rated as a motor carrier, as they are today, following an onsite investigation at their place of business. CSA 2010 will also provide enhanced tools for Safety Investigators (SIs) to identify drivers with safety performance problems during motor carrier investigations. As a result, motor carriers and drivers will have the opportunity to correct the specific safety performance problems. CSA 2010 is designed to meet one overriding objective: to increase safety on the Nation’s roads. Therefore, it is, by design, a positive program for drivers and carriers with strong safety performance records Also, it will send a strong message that drivers and carriers with poor safety performance histories need to improve.
   
2. What is the CSA 2010 Operational Model?
   The CSA 2010 Operational Model is the new way FMCSA and its state partners will carry out the compliance and enforcement programs. The CSA 2010 Operational Model is characterized by (1) a more comprehensive measurement system, (2) a proposed safety fitness determination methodology that is based on performance data, and (3) a comprehensive intervention process designed to more efficiently and effectively correct safety deficiencies.
   
3. How does a driver’s violation history impact a carrier’s Safety Measurement System (SMS) evaluation?
   Carriers are only evaluated on inspections and crashes associated with their own DOT number, so only violations that a driver receives while working for a carrier apply to that carrier’s SMS evaluation. Therefore, the driver’s violation history before the driver is hired and after the driver’s employment is terminated will not impact a carrier’s SMS results. However, even if a carrier terminates a driver, all of the driver’s crashes and inspection results that s/he received while operating for that carrier still apply to the carrier’s SMS evaluation for 24 months from the date of occurrence. Because the data is time-weighted, the effect of those occurrences on the carrier’s score will diminish over the course of the 24 months.

While I like Landline, and I am a member of OOIDA, they do word things wrongly on occasion and provide incorrect impressions. They also said at one point drivers need not worry about points. While technically correct it is wholly wrong because carriers have decided to make it about points.


But hey you want to think independent sources are more accurate than the administration tasked with actually running the system prepare to be shocked when they proven wrong.

 

I sure hope they do not open up point to point to the Mexican drivers. That will destroy the US and Canadian industries even worse than the cost cutting immigrant drivers from license mills. They also need to get rid of this paying a company to hire drivers from overseas garbage. Why not do something to help the industry in our countries by getting rid of the bad drivers and companies first? CSA 2010 'may' help get rid of some, immigrant drivers 'may' fill a void for a little while, but, even they 'should' get knocked out of the system eventually too.

As drivers we need to support lobby groups for us! Rather than bicker and talk all about it on the CB. As my Grandfather used to say "S#it or get off the pot!". So we ALL need to join groups in our favour and support lobbying for OUR rights.

 

It also doesn't say they will give me a million dollars. Doesn't mean I will get that. Read how the system works. All information obtained in all inspections under their carrier number are used in their CSMS.

Now yes the driver gets the ticket as he should. But to say the company receives no points is wrong. It all counts when their record is pulled.

 

tazz, the landline article IS from the guberment, they just copied it for everyone.......