ELD loss of efficiency plus more

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by JL of Indiana, Aug 29, 2017.

  1. JL of Indiana

    JL of Indiana Light Load Member

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    My trucks run 100% legal. However, I'm still accounting for atleast a 5% loss in productivity. At the very least on technicalities and lack of flexibility alone.

    You don't need to say if you run illegal or not of course, but how much % will you lose in your opinion?

    Are you preparing for this now? What is your thoughts or goals on this looming situation?

    Will a potential increase in your rates offset your losses? Will you make more money and for how long until thousands more trucks are bought? Will you lose money? Will there be enough drivers to fill all the newly needed seats? How long until they approve 3 axle trailers and that takes a huge cut out of needed capacity right when there is reaching a peak amount of trucks? What happens then? Will my trailers be obsolete?

    The things I think about.
     
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  3. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    I'm completely revamping my operation around this. I will likely no longer service the entire country. But stay more of a regional operation. I will implement rate increases to my direct customer. I've already talked to them about this and at this point they are understanding. If it becomes an issue when the time comes, then I'll find another customer.

    I don't see them allowing heavier weights, the infrastructure simply is to outdated to handle that. Even if they do, I don't see your trailers being outdated. There's plenty of freight that will not benefit from that.
     
  4. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    I best describe this as " Suck it up buttercup. "

    The other day I needed just 15 minutes, maybe 12 minutes more drive time. Lost an entire day.
    Worked my butt off. 3 drop load. Got the first two off an entire day early, both guys took them late in the afternoon. Unloaded the second one without a dock, in & out of the trailer, about 30 boxes / 2000 pounds. Traffic, getting in & out, BOLS, blah, mostly traffic, put me in a spot where it's basically no mans land for 80 miles. 55 MPH state. 1 hour & 15 minutes left.
    So had to stop short of where would have been max range to the house. Then stopped again after 8, and couldn't sleep, then slept 5 hours past when I could have driven, so basically got to town, where the last drop was as well the next day, because of 12 minutes.

    Comfortable truck, and parking savvy are going to be a must. I spend many nights, and even 34's at shippers or receivers.
    This helps tremendously on saving crucial time. Gotta get the good rates too.

    I am a former madman. Probably one of the worst on this site. It can be done, it sucks, but it can be done.

    I don't think it's so much productivity or revenue, yes in some instances, as it is comfort. By that I mean you may find yourself several miles from anywhere for a night, so you need to be self contained.

    I have a comfortable truck. That is a huge help.

    In fact you may find yourself several miles from nowhere several nights in a row lol. With Verizon unlimited data, it's actually not so bad. But yea 2, 3, even 4 days in the bush might happen now. Those that can field bathe have a leg up lmfao.
     
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  5. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    How much time someone will lose depends on how honest they are on paper logs I would say. You now will have real driving to time. I can do 620 miles if their is no traffic jams in a truck that olny goes 65mph. I would say plan on real world driving time to be 5-7 mph less. So if you need to drive 600 miles a day you better drive 65-67 mph. If you only need 550 miles a day drive 60-62 mph.

    The rest will depend on how many stop a day you take on a load. More stops will slow you average down plus eat up more time.
     
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  6. Tug Toy

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    Ordered mine yesterday actually. I changed my operation at the beginning of the year for lots of reasons but, one of them was to get the hours in check. It has been all positive on my end. Took a few months to get compleatly into compliance. For the last 6 months I have run legal. As a matter of fact I generally only work less than 12 hours a day and don't expect to travel any more than 300 miles in a day. I will run the Elog on the side for a while once it arrives until it is mandatory to have it. I will use some of this time to figure out what it WILL and WONT do.

    My carrier will wait till the last posible second and him and his drivers will have some real issues. I'm not sure he will survive?

    I know one OO that has bowed out of the industry (sold truck) and 2 more I believe will leave before the mandate. They are not even going to try it.
     
  7. Tug Toy

    Tug Toy Road Train Member

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    On a side note... I parked yesterday at 4 pm. Went inside ate and got cleaned up. Came back out and found a flat tire on the truck. At about 5:15 pm. Walked over to the shop and ordered 2 tires and put my name in. It was 9 pm when I paid the bill. I would not have 7 am appointment this morning had I loged it all on duty as per the "law".

    On the other hand I should have checked the truck the moment I parked and got in line!!!! So if I would have paid the bill at 7:45 pm I would have made my appointment.

    So I will definitely have to be more on point!!

    Side note # 2

    It's 8:45 and the have not started unloading me yet anyways!!! Lol
     
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  8. Oscar the KW

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    When you're running both, I would suggest that on the eld you use a "test" account. If you have 2 logs and get inspected I'm not sure how that would fly. I plan to do the same as you though.
     
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  9. Tug Toy

    Tug Toy Road Train Member

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    That's is my plan. Thanks
     
  10. BoostedTeg

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    My E log provider is sending me a laminated piece of paper stating that I'm in training mode on E logs until the mandate goes in full effect. I'll do my paper logs and E logs at the same time to see just how much adjustment I need to make if any to my operation.
     
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  11. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I see a lot of 400 mile loads with a day and half to 2 days transit times. I also see a lot of 500-600 miles scheduled to pickup around 6-10pm and delivering the next day around 15:00-18:00. Time will be lost for sure. I don't think it's going to impact shippers and receivers all that much. They simply reschedule the load and go on with their life not giving it another thought and the carriers/drivers will be eating the #### sammich. Rates aren't going to change. Look at the idiots hauling FEMA loads for peanuts now. That's my prediction.
     
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