Yup, he has many videos about his truck. They plan on using the older all metal air valves on the dash to for trailer and tractor parking brakes. He says they are cheaper then the plastic one you can buy from most manufacturers because they mark them up so much and they will last longer like thing use to last.
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Edison Motors just got $500,000 grant to build a snow plow truck. He has video about that looks like it will be heavy duty plow truck for Canada.
seems like it would very hard thing to get going but he is building trucks that are built like in the past. I think he said his truck should last 30 years and you can fix it yourself for the most part.Opendeckin, Flat Earth Trucker, Cat sdp and 2 others Thank this. -
HI, might need a new thread.
I'm wondering if anyone has had lived experience with an electric truck.
For my application, I reckon I can save $65K AU in diesel, and potentially $8-$10K AU further in servicing per annum.
I'm interested in any experience with those A pillar internally mounted mirrors that work from exterior camera. Any real issues or just different.
I understand the trucks also use less gears, or can do. Do the electric motors work like a Tesla car and provide ample braking, or if a Retarder - Intarder option is available would that be preferred.
Are they significantly quieter, smoother.
I have looked into the Jensen click clack battery option in the OP. They require a truck under 10 years to convert, which is around 200K AU from memory. Then battery hire and so on. Have also found Sany, a Chines company doing exchange battery tech for around half the price of US. Not much infrastructure or support however which is electric anything biggest failing it seems. Including a grid.
I don't believe I will ever see a Tesla in Australia, so considering a Volvo. European comfort, large existing company with lots of local spares, and amazingly.... made locally or part there of. Reckon an electric truck suits my application as I operate 42.5T off the top of a 1800ft decent at 8-15% for 5 mile, so figure it would charge itself. My run is then undulating to sea level for 20 mile, before returning empty at 13T. My daily run is a total of 200 mile.
We also have a 20kW solar system that should be suitable for top up charging while I load for 20 minutes.
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It not much help for you but more about possible future. Edison Motors is now building 5 trucks using Scana engines. There is one crazy looking truck he won’t say who it’s for or what it for. Edison Motors has a new designed drive axles from the original one.
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Thanks, and good luck to Edison Motors. There seems to be so much 'in the making" i'ts become exciting and a bore at the same time. I've been waxing and warning over on the idea - hope ever since Tesla announced their semi in 2017.
I once got excited about Meritor's Blue Horizon offering and possibly fitting it into a K100 or something classic, but no. Its all concept and its marketing if for major truck manufacturers. Understandable.
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Here is mirror eye the came system to replace truck mirror. It legal in USA but almost no truck have them. I seen maybe 2 trucks with them a no regular truck mirrors and seem maybe 5 with both mirrors still on the truck.
MirrorEye North America - Stoneridge, Inc.
The Tesla semi is still testing basically with PepsiCo. Those Edison Motors truck are extremely heavy, the guy says he building them to last like 20+ years or morejaffles Thanks this. -
Thanks Brandt,
I read somewhere a while back that the mirrors had some flaw, but can't recall. It could have been just because they were different. I'm interested in them more for blind spot reduction than aerodynamics. I also get a fair bit of rain and fogging mirrors due to changing conditions in altitude, so maybe they may work better.
It's a bit of an endless discussion on need for a simple tuff old truck that one can fix themselves, to the opposite. I don't have the tools, workshop, knowledge, or desire really to crawl around under a truck. Too old but kudos to those who do. If I look back on my first car, or 4x4 to the one I drive now. The technology has not been a draw back or its niggling issue, but the drivability, responsiveness, comfort, decent air con / demister, cabin noise, sound system, braking etc have been all things I prefer to the past. I am lucky the delivery / business I run can pay for workshop servicing, and I am not out on the open road all by myself 1000 miles from anywhere. I think however regardless of truck and its purpose, availability of parts is on par to the truck application. If parts are not in the country, preferably not too far away, and in volume then its a dud truck. Who can wait for 6 weeks, when 1 day is bad enough.
The roads I drive are narrow, windy and bumpy, man they are bumpy. So good visibility and comfort are priority.
This Volvo has air bag steer suspension as an option? Anyone had any experience?
I know I'm dead against this 1 leaf idea that some manufactures are using, its a deal breaker for me. I've had a broken steer spring, and perhaps the only thing that saved me from careering over the edged was a second spring. I presume there is one air bag per side, but the axel must be held in position someway. I've had an air bag with a-hole punctured in it carry on for days, and you can guess their replacement with cracking, but a spring just snaps. Not opposed to parabolic and decent shocks if there are at least 2 spring, but if air bags are a good step froward for rough roads then I'm interested. -
Edison Motors truck would be perfect for Australia with it’s off road capability and hopefully build quality. They are a long way from building them in any mass production plus exporting them. They don’t have to worry about a charging network work since it diesel engine.
Everyone complain they don’t build trucks or stuff to last tile the use to. I’m interested to if people are willing to pay the price today for a truck that is built to last long time. -
Yes good luck to Edisons, I imagine its a mammoth task building a reliable product in the first place. Providing back up for it in a way customers expect, in some sort of volume with associated distribution, and be competitive is a hard path to choose. All the time compliance, safety, governance, competitors are nothing but hinderance. I think however they should call it stump if they are only looking at old school.
My understanding, and happy to be corrected. EVs where born out of saving people more than the environment. Those dam authorities want to save everyone, and I guess I'm not so big on dying either. Disc brakes maybe a good selling point for a company, but seat belts became mandatory because they significantly reduced injury and saved more lives than took. Air bags, crumple zones, ABS etc are all mandatory in manufacturing for the same reason. Emissions however are there for people living in a city, sitting in traffic with another zillion people. Resspiricay issues have been around since burning coal for energy in cities was a thing, so to wood. So electricity with power stations burning coal out back of the populations was invented. EV's are just evolution of burning fossil fuels in highly populated areas. Unleaded fuel was another.
Euro 6 emissions have lead to breaking diesel particles down to be so small, they have become capable of being ingested and lodged in the lungs similar to asbestos. And given if trucks stop so does a country, and most people live in cities, Euro 6 is not the answer.
Call it woke, nanny, #ay or whatever, old school is slowly being run out of town because statics don't lie. It looks like the powers that be started reducing emissions with individual consumers and private cars over companies. Perhaps because trucks, energy, distance is difficult problem. Perhaps it was easier to sell cars by saving our planet. Either way I imagine when the first truck was invented in 1920, too visualise what we have today was an impossibility.
Perhaps there will always be a spot of old school diesels. Distance, safety, reality may see them exist in remote parts of lower populated areas. Or applications where infrastructure is too costly to install given a volume. However electricity runs to most places and it's easier, faster, safer, and cheaper to build and maintain than running a tanker of fuel out to but #### nowhere every week.
Volvo have a full size Globetrotter coming out mid year that does 380 mile. Perhaps others do too. Etrucks were only coined in 2017, that's not bad development in anyones book. I fear Thump wanting to drill baby drill is looking at money and money only. People lives, families, health, and economies may all be left behind. And his mate Elon who appears to be distracted easily, had something coming along nicely appears to have turned too Mars and possibly other things. That right wing salute has gone down like a lead ballon. I get the impression many in Americans think because they are a population of 330 million people, they are a power house and untouchable, and to date that's been true. China however has 1.3 billion people; and the world has given them the knowledge and machinery to make what the world consumes, and cheaply. They also understand pollution derived from old school, and have the same dreams and hopes of the next human. It's also why they secured most of the worlds rare minerals to make batteries.
Old school is great for club enthusiasts, politicians looking to appease a % of population, and avoiding change. In my view it's probably not what a country, its economy and your family needs to move towards next century in a prosperous way. Don't hate though, down under we are no different.
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