Elogs and denied freight

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by STR8STAKZ, Jan 1, 2018.

  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    An interesting read and something brokers should keep in mind.
    But, (You knew it was coming) CHR was more than a broker in that case. They owned the product, and was the receiver of said product. They owned the warehouse said product (potatoes) was shipped to, under contract from Jewel Foods. They even set the equipment requirement... ( A reefer of a specific length is what the court found that counted)
    In a pure broker relationship I wonder how it would have worked out.
     
  2. Majestic 670

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    But are the rates going up? Or are they the same they really just look the same to me...
     
  3. TallJoe

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    South East going Midwest - poor, miserable, the same.
    Midwest(chicago outbound) - good and solid still, except California
    California- Midwest - miserable
    Too early to see if elogs matter.
     
  4. freightwipper

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  5. Majestic 670

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    Yeah but the rate are the same
     
  6. freightwipper

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    Not in my book
     
  7. wore out

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    I don't think E-logs are hugely responsible. I'm going with Christmas and the economy growing. People wanting to splurge on kids/grandkids because they have been conservative the last few years. It's too soon to say it's E-logs
     
  8. x1Heavy

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    IF a load is LATE... who is hold bag? IE: Who pays? Trucking company I would think.

    If that truck is late because of hours of service, then why bother hiring that company and their trucks that cannot be on time? Espeically if you can document that late using the ELD against the industry. Talk about flipping a safety device against being able to do anything with it.

    No body wants liability. Paper logs? HA. ELD's will assure that truck being late sometimes and I tell you my theory why....

    Brokers, Shippers and Recievers talk appointment times to a date and hour on the dot. They NEVER ask the driver exactly what legal arrival time he or she or they (Team...) can do? SO. they promise the load to be there in timbuktu Associated at 3PM Yesterday when the freaking Yakima Packers are busy still chilling down and loading the freight.

    I have always watched our industry migrate from get there before sunrise for the delivery on a given day. Say 10 days to California or something good. Now it's 5 days to California and you might be late if there is a problem with hours etc. Late? Im fired. No wonder my record looks the way it does. When I ran paper logs and started to push back against dispatch and appointment times, they replace me with a young newbie, hopefully that young newbie is living in fear of his or her job and wont get fired for being late. Paper logs? HA. Replace a very good driver like me with a newbie who has no business being tossed into a position where he or she has not yet gained enough experience not to be late across the USA.

    All that so the liability of paying for a load being late does not have to be paid.

    My solution?

    STOP it with the stupid appointment times. Go with a delivery day and return to the old way of unloading, deliveries in the morning hours say 6 am and transition to loading in the early afternoon. That way the stores will get the product in the evening hours and stock shelves for the next day.

    Having someone to manage 500 incoming truckers with 500 appointment times across a working day times 5 days a week with thousands more coming off the west coast with good things to eat...

    You think that someone will be driven to drinking, smoking and other vices probably pot by now due to the stress. If it did not put him or her into the hospital. No one can be expected to track all that ####. But the Gaurdshack with the powerful computer can tell the stupid trucker, yer late. Come back later this week with a new appt time.

    So much for a preplanned reload somewhere else who now has to go round finding another truck to cover it on a emergency basis because MR late has to baby sit a load of toilet paper that will take a month to sell from the local shelf. After it is delivered finally say 3 days later.

    And this whole ELD business? HA... Burn it all I say.

    And you wonder why I do some thinking at night about the problems in this industry.

    Oh by the way....

    When I was fired for being late some years back by a really good company, they made sure... absolutely bent over backwards to let me know I am ternimated. Not one breath was spared in any educating to me about the costs, fees and penalties that the company had to pay because I was late on paper logs. By defination you are not allowed to be late because you have three logbooks right? HA... there is only 168 hours in a week.

    And that answers yet another question. I do not know anything about what it costs the company when I am late. They just yell a bunch of bad words, eliminate me and hire a newbie who will not be late at any price. Then this whole ELD thing? HA....

    Not just HA but HA.
     
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  9. x1Heavy

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    The more I think about this the worse my attitude got.

    How about Amazon... I got a package of wonderful gifts coming in a 100 pound box from dear family back home far away.

    HEY AMAZON YOUR APPT AT MY GATE IS 3:00 on the dot. If your driver is NOT there present with undamage 100 pound box at 3:10, youre going to suffer charges of 100 dollars per hour until it arrives.

    SHEESH.

    We will see who be smiling tonight.
     
  10. pmdriver

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