ELOGS(or how Im not "Skeeeeerd")

What do you mean by "hiding on duty dock time"? I get to a shipper/receiver, I walk in, check in, get assigned a door, back in, under normal circumstances this takes less than 15 minutes, 45 in an extreme case. After that its back to the sleeper for me until the green light comes on and I leave. There's no reason to waste on duty time when you're not even lifting a finger. For 90% of us the only on duty dock time we do is sign a set of bills or write a check for the lumper.

 

Read the entire message, I added something before I posted and it didnt quote right.

ELOGS will not make anything 100% legal either, theoretically while I am at a dock I can put the log book in the sleeper, and go unload my own trailer by hand for two hours or however long it takes. All this unbeknown to the the TALKING BOX. Maybe this is on duty dock time Tazz was referring to. I suppose the next thing will be in truck cameras and ankle bracelets to prove you were in the sleeper. Maybe a brain wave monitor to prove you achieved the correct level of REM sleep for 10 hours.

YES, It does TALK, That stupid Quallcomm/elog box, in that annoying weather band channel tone of voice...


"...chirp chirp chirp...A new Message has arrived... ...You have 30 minutes of drive time remaining..."

So yes I know what is LEGAL and what big brother CLAIMS to be safe...


now after I sleep at a shipper/receiver for 2,4, 6, hours you're trying to tell me I shouldn't be able to legally split my sleeper, drive longer into the night and extend my day? because prior to 2004 this was the way it was done and still should be.

No, uncle sam says I should be screwed out of almost a half day of work, cutting my working time short to run LEGAL, taking a 10 hour break when I'm not tired because it's LEGAL, and then driving tired once I'm allowed to drive again on a screwed up sleep schedule and out of whack body clock, because its LEGAL.

The more the government gets involved, the more disorganized and out of whack and expensive the system will get.

 

It was(and is) common practice to log minimum amounts at a customer then supposedly get a break of two+ hours. People would take time spent at a customer and transform it into a break to extend their day. Problem was no one was actually getting a break in. Or rather very few were. My opinion if your spending enough time at a customer to amount to any kind of break get better customers, but I digress.

The 14 hour hard clock was installed to prevent these mythical breaks of 4 and 5 hours.



That clock is not going anywhere. You can count 2 hours as sleeper to cut your long break to 8. And the entire drive tired argument is as flawed as it is worn the hell out. If your tired take a #### nap. No where in any of the FMCSR's does it tell you not to. In fact quite the opposite.

 

What if a bunch of trucks o/o, company drivers, any kind of driver just bum rush Washington D.C park out rigs around back to back or nose to back doors all the way around so no one can enter or leave. Also put boots on our own rigs so they can't tow them until we prove a point.

 

Ive run 676 with 10 minutes to spare. Thats my best so far within the 11 hour timeframe. And I got stuck at the Delaware I-95 Toll booth for a half hour.

But realistically I run around 580-640 miles a day on a long haul with no stops.

I dont have a problem with elogs. They help keep you out of trouble, with all the new viscious Federal regulations.

 

I would not recommend logging sleeper and billing for unloading. Ask JBS what the majority of their violations that earned them those massive fines were. Well that and sitting hours on end at their plants.

Didn't I read somewhere that during that audit they targeted some of the drivers for multiple log violations? Seems I recall some of them on here whining about fines.

Yeah you might pass a roadside for now, but when you keep getting dinged and they come look through everything believe me they know the tricks you have been endangering the roadways with.




And for the final #### time no reg tells you to drive tired. You can keep spouting that lie, doesn't make it true.

Subpart A 392.3 specifically prohibits operation when ill or fatigued.

Kinda hard to make the statement they make you drive tired due to your planning when that reg exists huh.


Wasting you day? If your cheap enough to donate half your day without compensation I would suggest becoming more expensive. Only you can set the value of your time. If you choose to hold yourself cheap and give it away I nor anyone else can help you. In fact the people" adjusting" their book to give their time away are a huge reason for the problems of shippers and recievers feeling your time is cheap.

Best thing this industry can do is go to elogs. It will considerably reduce the cheap ones donating their time and hiding it.

 

Trust me, I see the writing on the wall. For now I work for one of the last companies out there that still treats their drivers right and does trucking the way it was meant to be. When it all goes south and elogs are mandated, perhaps I will find myself back at a medium or big box outfit. I am unsure if my company would stay in business after this, If they shut the doors I wouldn't hold it against them. When the government and insurance litigators are still not satisfied with elogs and want to put even more restrictions on trucks and cdl holders, further screwing things up, I will be one of the ones who can point back to my posts here on TTF and say "told ya so!!!"