End dumps or flatbed

your ignorance is showing again snowwy... Side dumps absolutely can tip over. I've seen several of them on their side.

 

HOW?

Do you even know what a side dump is?

Only way I can see it happening is if the 5th wheel is already broke and shouldn't be used in the first place. Or kingpin.

 

Look, ive never pulled any of that stuff, and its not hard to figure out that the physics of wet dirt adhering a little too long could easily tip one.

Beleiving that its a bit harder makes sense, beleiving its impossible...
Remember that everytime someone makes something idiot proof, someone builds a better idiot

 

yes I'm well aware of what a side dump is. I think side dumps originally were designed and built in my area. several manufacturers of side dumps in my area.

with anything sticky in the tub, dirt, manure, whatever they can tip. or leave the tarp shut and dump they will turn over. dump on soft ground or a soft shoulder they will tip.

will pull the whole truck over or severely twist the truck frame of break off the fifth wheel. only saving grace is the trailer will sometimes be fine.

 

What's wrong with that picture?

That's not how side dumps are built.

 

@snowwy

what do you mean that's not how side dumps are built?? and what's wrong with the picture? the trailer is on its side...
look I've ran a side dump and worked alongside many on many projects. I've personally seen I'd say 3 or 4 on their side. sometimes just the trailer and they are able to pull it on its wheels and keep trucking. other times it pulls the truck over too and it's game over.

 

Look at that pic.
That thing. If it's true..DESERVES to tip over.

Frames run parallel down the side of the trailer for stability. Front to back. Evenly.

That thing looks like a V
That's a recipe for disaster.

Build em parallel. They DON'T tip over. Unless the 5th wheel is shot.

 

I don't know #### then, I only did dirt work for like 12 years, side dumps go over the second something sticks to them, I have watched a lot of side dumps tip over, since side dumps do all the dirty work, they haul alit of clay and contaminated wet crap in them, and the moment that wet or frozen crap don't come out the side dump is over. I have hauled almost every kind of dirt imaginable in an end dump and if you are paying attention to what you are doing and not being a knob you would be fine. Also all of our end dumps were 40 feet or over and if they were under had 3 axles so they could bridge 80 a 40' frameless end dump hooked to my heavy ### c15 379 with a 48" flat top sleeper could legally carry a little over 24 tons, depending on how much fuel I had, and since every load gets scaled and they won't let you leave any pit around here over weight I was never over weight

 

End dumps would tip over too.
Correct.

When we hauled material that wouldn't come out. The job shut down. Sides weren't around then. Not in my area anyways.

Sides make more money. They can haul more weight.

If sides are more dangerous. Why are they replacing ends?

BTW. Diesel fuel works great as a slider.

 

I don't believe anyone said side dumps are more dangerous. You said they can't tip over. we are just telling you that you are wrong. they can and do tip over. however many times when they do tip no serious damage is done. unlike an end dump that would likely have some serious damage.

No one, except you, said side dumps can haul more weight. and what are you comparing?? a side dump to an aluminum frame less? the best trailer for the job depends on the job. both are versatile but some more suited for jobs than the other..

In my area side dumps have been the normal forever. end dumps are very rare, aside from dump trucks.