EPA inspections on emissions true or myth?

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  1. Last Call

    Last Call Road Train Member

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    Who checked ya the EPA or the DOT ?
     
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  3. Long FLD

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    I’ve been dipped by the DOT in South Dakota. They have a habit of dropping by elevators and sale barns while trucks are lined up waiting to unload.

    I’ve been dipped by the DOT in Idaho at the Sage Jct and Lewiston scales and once at the pull out north of Riggins.

    I’ve been dipped by the DOT in Montana at the Four Corners scale and the scale at Lima. I’ve also been dipped by an IRS agent when the DOT was set up at the Cameron pull out.

    Never once was the EPA ever involved because all they care about is the sulfur content, which is the same between taxed and untaxed fuel.
     
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  4. broke down plumber

    broke down plumber Road Train Member

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    EPA , IRS , DOT , ATF , DOD , FMCSA , FCC , SEC , TSA , THP , ECT . Have t1 thing in common , get as much $$money$$ from the tax payer as possible . I think we can all agree on that .
     
  5. snowwy

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    I've seen members agree with dot drippings.

    Don't think I've seen members that agree the other way on this thread.

    On that note. I always thought it was dot that worked the scale where I got dipped. Not irs or epa. But he could have been undercover.

    I was asked questions on a construction job site. And I think he dipped. It was about 20 years ago. He was under cover. So I can't confirm is government employment.
     
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  6. Ridgeline

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    I have never seen an IRS agent even bother with the fuel in the tank, but I have seen them inspect a fleet to see if there is any tax cheating going on.

    The state collects the taxes on fuel, and the state is charged with enforcing the collection of the taxes, not the federal government, so if the STATE DOT does an inspection, they may check the tanks. I never saw a US DOT officer ever on the side of the road, so it is only the states that enforce the law.
     
  7. Cdemars316

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    I have had my tanks dipped numerous times in MN, always by state dot, but I was also pulling end dump which would mean you are around off road equipment alot and I am sure some companies tried to run off road in there tanks and got busted at some point, never had it done when hooked to a regular trailer
     
  8. Accidental Trucker

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    Back when our DOT name hat “Farms” in it, we got dipped for dyed fuel all the time. Never since we changed “Farms” to “logistics”. I’m sure the revenue agents are playing the odds.
     
  9. Long FLD

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    When I got dipped at Cameron MT by the IRS guy he gave me a card that was from the Bozeman MT office.
     
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  10. 86scotty

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    Simply not true. A vast majority of OTR trucks, and all company trucks on the road are emissions compliant and are making money still. My emissions trucks have never cost me much money at all, nor has either one put me on the side of the road, nor have they broken me, nor have they ever once forced me to head to a dealer.

    The biggest rip I see these days on an emissions truck is the actual price of DEF these days.
     
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  11. drivingmissdaisy

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    I think trucks made with the first gen DPF systems had a lot of problems. But just because YOUR trucks haven't had issues is incredibly naive to the problems that hundreds of thousands of truck drivers have had with their DPF systems over the years.

    A lot of company trucks have APU's which minimize idling. That helps the DPF system reliability tremendously. But many O/O don't have them, so idling is the only way they can stay comfortable to sleep at night. This will clog their exhaust system faster than company trucks with APU's.
     
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