Estes sucks

Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by Bitterharbor35, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. White Dog

    White Dog Road Train Member

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    are you even anywhere's on a route that Estes travels, or are you out of the way for them to reach in a timely fashion?
    Stupid question. If Estes accepts the assignment....then his business is "in route". Other wise Estes needs to say when he calls to book the delivery "We're sorry...we don't go there".

    are there other businesses where you are that use Estes?
    Got nothing to do with it.....his business can be in the middle of nowhere----if Estes accepts the assignment THEY need to make things work.

    they may also be lacking a few p&d drivers. maybe they are on vacation and others have to fill in to take up the over flow?
    Not the business owners problem. He paid a carrier to deliver freight---what ever else may be going on, the carrier needs to deliver the dang freight!

    there are many reasons for this, maybe you have to call at an earlier time?
    It's LTL dude (wanted to say "dummy" but that would be name calling, and it's not allowed---so I'll go with dude}....if I call today (and pay the over-inflated price) and tell you I want it tomorrow, and the carrier accepts the assignment, it's on the carrier to 'get it done'.

    do you even have enough freight for them to stop there?
    Again; it is LTL! It can be one skid. He paid....they accepted....THEY need to get the darn freight there in time, every time.

    like for instance, daily freight? (sounds to me by your description, you only ship out once a week, or maybe 2-3 times a month)..that to me, just doesn't warrant you to be on my list for pick ups.
    You really don't understand LTL do you?

    do you have a lot of freight or one piece?
    3 times you asked that same question...not once have you made any sense. You're starting to....scratch that....you ARE annoying the **** out of me.

    if it were me and i had a route where a customer only uses me once per month, or ships so little, i would NOT cater to that customer, over the ones that really butter my bread.
    Bad business...and narcissistic. He IS a customer...and he paid for a spot on that trailer. Are you serious? Or, what is your story?

    if you cannot guarantee daily loads or more then one item, you'd be a waste of time.
    Proves you don't know squat about squat. A POTENTIAL customer, is just as good as a customer. It's called "business".


    I'm on @Bitterharbor35 's side...Estes booked the movement; Estes need to make it happen no matter what. Period, and plain and simple. No freaking excuses!
     
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  3. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    First of all, we're talking about a pickup here. Different animal.

    Also, chances are it was arranged through a 3PL such as C.H. Robinson or Unishippers.

    Further, I hate to tell you this, but Buddy's not only right but it clearly sounds like he DOES understand this job.

    When it's getting late and it comes time to make decisions regarding which customers get serviced and which ones don't, I for one am certainly not going to sacrifice a delivery OR a pickup at a regular multi-bill shipper that I can get in and out of in 5 minutes to go 20 miles out of the way to accomodate somebody with an oversize piece of crap I've never heard of, been to, and would likely never see again. That would be self defeating. A freight line has a business to run, just like any other, and that requires thinking of the bottom line. The regulars and the freight that pays gets priority.

    Fortunately this rarely happens unless you wind up leaving the yard in the morning 1 1/2 - 2 hours after you're supposed to. It can certainly be said that therein lies an operational flaw.
     
  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I always tell people the best thing they can do is to deal with a carrier directly. Problem is, that usually means they will pay through the nose, because freight lines deal in volume discounts. Nobody will have a direct account with a carrier unless they deliver or pickup there several times a week.

    This brings us to the 3PL, and it is likely they who decided Estes should get this pickup. If it's one of the bottom feeder outfits, they may not have even bothered to provide the shipper with a bill of lading. That's why I cringe when I get pickups from non-regular shippers. More often then not I get someone looking at me like I have 3 heads when I ask for a BOL.

    Even worse is the situation where we might be sent somewhere to pick up something that the alleged "shipper" sold on craig's list or ebay, and the buyer is supposedly the one handling the logistics. The shipper is often totally out of the loop, and I very rarely seen one of these situations not turn out to be more trouble than it's worth.
     
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  5. kimbosa

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    I couldn't have said that any better!
     
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  6. White Dog

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    Good thing we're in America...because it is ok to disagree with one another. Pick-up or delivery...if Estes accepts the job, and gets paid for the job, then they need to do the darn job. Period. And when I pay for goods and/or services, I expect to the same treatment as everyone else.
     
  7. Lonesome

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    If Estes doesn't want the guy's business, because of the reason's you state, they should be upfront about it. "Sorry, not interested, we can't give the service you expect."
     
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  8. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    this is true. maybe by ignoring him too they are telling him to bug off.

    i agree with you.
     
  9. shogun

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    First time they're late, understandable. Second time, I call them and cancel and never use them again.
     
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  10. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    No dispatcher at any freight line will do that. It's always "wait and see what happens over the course of the day."

    A good one will pull a driver out of a nearby area if he's done early and has time to go there.There are very few good ones though. The usual routine is to simply stick it on the driver who's regular area that is and forget it, regardless of how late he left or how many deliveries he may have. That way they can simply sit back and play with themselves all day. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Opus

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    10 times? Who's the fool?
     
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