exhaust under load

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by dieselsmoke, Jul 7, 2007.

  1. Burky

    Burky Road Train Member

    Sorry, been gone for a couple of days. On a naturally aspirated engine, of which there are almost none in trucks, as the engine speed increases, the amount of airflow also increases because as the engine turns faster, the amount of vacuum in the intake manifold increases. At a higher level of vacuum, more air is pulled through. This increases wth rpm, until it stabilizes because the airflow has reached the maximum it can pass through the intake passages, or some other factor limits it. Remember helping dad as a kid and having to hold your hand over a carb to help choke the engine? Remember the amount of suction? With rpm, that suction increases until it reaches it's maximum flow.

    And again, you have increased flow through the exhaust pipe at higher rpm, resulting in the gases exiting faster, and more shear between the moving flow and the stationary air surrounding it.
     
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  3. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    The 8.2 L Detroit is a naturally aspirated engine. I remember those. All show and no go...
     
  4. Passin Thru

    Passin Thru Road Train Member

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    Residual-:biggrin_25514:Leftover. Aint nuttin leftover in my pipes!
     
  5. dieselsmoke

    dieselsmoke Bobtail Member

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    Burky, thanks but I'm not talking about difference between lower and higher RPM, I mean same RPM under higher and lower load

    For example, imagine your engine is running at 1500 rpm out of gear, and imagine it is running at 1500 rpm while pulling a fully loaded trailer, there is a big difference in the exhaust pipe sound, while the rpm is the same.

    How to explain that?
     
  6. dieselsmoke

    dieselsmoke Bobtail Member

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    There is always a "leftover" pressure in the cylinder in turbocharged engines, even higher than that in naturally aspirated, because you had the initial pressure already higher than atmospheric, so after the expansion stroke, you still have the initial pressure plus additional pressure, from combustion.
    That's what I mean by "residual" pressure.

    My guess is that the exhaust roar under load has something to do with
    more "leftover" pressure after the expansion stroke, than if would have if it weren't under such load, basucally, under load, the engine is running rich, and under those conditions there seems to be more exhaust pressure, but I can't figure out how to connect rich mixture with exhaust pressure, maybe it's because rich mixtures produce more temperature, so the exhaust gas is existing faster, but I think Burky will know for sure.
     
  7. torque

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    my thoughts would be that at 1500 rpm the engine is pumping in just enough fuel to run smoothe and safe while in neutral,under load at the samme rpm i would think the engine has to draw in more fuel and more air to keep running at that rpm meaning more fuel and larger explosions during the power stroke being louder.that's like hammering a brad into balsa wood then hammering a railroad spike into a tree with a 16oz hammer.you may swing every 3 seconds on each but you really have to work harder to drive that rail spike into the tree making a lot more noise for the same basic result.That's all I can come up with ya'll
     
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