Exposing log book tricks

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by jlkklj777, Jan 1, 2008.

  1. 24valve puller

    24valve puller Medium Load Member

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    I think the only thing logging it as you work it would do is make alot more trucks team driven, if the hauler wants to keep the contract he will find a way to keep the goods moving. Shippers don't want to hear excuses and they don't care about you waiting. Drivers and o/o's don't have a whole lot of pull when it comes to stuff like that. Right now GOOD freight is pretty slow so what do you do, piss off the good paying freight and have to find something else to take its place or do you just put up with their bs and live to fight another day
     
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  3. miakica

    miakica Light Load Member

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    As long as truckers are paid by the mile, and regulated by hour, there will be cheating on logs.

    Period.

    Cheers
     
  4. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    Yup. They deregulated the industry and regulated the labour.
     
  5. valczer

    valczer Light Load Member

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    LOL yeah that is why I don't think electronic logs will replace the good ol' comic book :) EVERYBODY knows it is happening and what is more, they know WHY it is happening :) As long as the top dogs(Company owners, politicians etc.) in this industry stay grossly over greedy, creative logging is here to stay. They will blow all kinds of smoke up the public's bottom just to keep their profits insanely high :) That is the whole magic behind it :)
     
  6. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Somehow I doubt that. I thought there was a law in place that required all companies to switch to electronic logs within 2 or 3 years. That way it at least LOOKS like someone addressed the problem, as if it's all the driver's fault.
     
  7. rjones56

    rjones56 Heavy Load Member

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    read the first few posts here ,sorta upsets me.just can`t understand why anyone would want to throw more ammunition out there that could make this 14 hour B.S. worse than it is.surely you guys can contribute something that would lead to a more productive end.as tight as the economy is right now,the future looking like it doesjust can`t see the purpose of the comments of a few of my so called peers.
     
  8. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Light Load Member

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    No, that's california's intrastate reg's. If you haul a farm product in california(i.e. milk, carrort, tomatoes) You can basically drive 12hrs a day everyday 7 days a week.
     
  9. northstarfire0693

    northstarfire0693 Heavy Load Member

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    I dont care how they change the HOS..... NO LOG BOOK WILL TELL YOU WHEN YOU ARE TIRED. That is up to the driver. With all the crap they come out with on the HOS they (DOT) are putting MORE stress on the drivers out there trying to make ends meat to feed the familey. I understand what the DOT IS "TRYING" to do, but what goes on when your on the road...Well we all know that one. Bottom line is....If your tired..GET OFF THE ROAD!!!!! If not....Hammer down...How you log is up to you and what will work.

    WELL SAID..

    Ok...Here is an idea for the DOT if they want every driver to log it 100% as they did it.

    1. Make law that says all shippers & recievers will load/unload their freight w/o force the driver to do it or have driver pay for loading/unloading.

    2. Have drivers PAID when they are delayed at the docks ( 90-100 $ per hour or any part of )
    3. Drivers will be paid FOR ALL WORK ON LINE 4

    4. drivers paid when they are sleeping (line 2 ) Your still working when sleeping ( babysitting truck and load )

    That is just a small list to start.... I know there is more. Now the chance we will see this happen....Not a chance.
     
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  10. Owner's Operator

    Owner's Operator Medium Load Member

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    What was the point of you posting this for the world to see? Seeing you know so many of these "tricks" you must have been doing them yourself, right? Or are you trying to be some kind of "hero?"
     
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  11. nick2008

    nick2008 Bobtail Member

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    It all comes down to money

    IF and thats a big IF the majority of drivers and I mean Professional drivers out there had the nuts to do things by the book instead of being greedy and ran by the book your industry would NOT be in the state it's in now. If your honest about the things you do to make a buck or 2 think about if it had been done legaly by now you would be in a position of running and earnng a living.
    Seriously think about it. If you all got together and said ok this job will cost X and thats what were gonna charge the brokers will say no-way what would happen ,,,
    well after a while the broker is going to have to up the price so he can get it moved cause if he dont and no-one touches that broker he'll lose the work and someone else has to move it, they will have the same problem unless the rate is incressed...
    So its all in your own hands.... Fiddle the books HOS etc and the only people you are doing out of work

    IS YOU
     
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