Extra fuel tank under dry van

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Troady, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. Troady

    Troady Light Load Member

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    HI there guys, I run several states with different fuel prices, ranging from $2,49 to $ 3,60, so i am planning to buy a 150 gallons tank and place it under my 53' dry van just behind the legs, and just transfer the fuel from there to the main 100 gallons tank when needed. (Got 2 of them in my truck).
    It's there any regulations that forbid to do that?
    Reefers carry a 40 - 50? gallons tank in there, but maybe 150 extra gallons under a dry van can be too much for a DOT officer.
    When possible, what will be the best way to fastened it under the trailer?
    Thanks for your answers.
     
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  2. Chinatown

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    That's a good idea; hadn't thought about that. I've seen reefer trailers with two fuel tanks; one on each side.
     
  3. Kyle G.

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    Someone correct me if i am wrong, but i think if the tank was just there for storage (as in not directly supplying the engine), then wouldn’t it be considered hazmat?
     
  4. gokiddogo

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    Once you figure out the fuel tax rates and wherever your discount locations are, most of it can be found for similar rates. It seems like it would be a lot of extra work for a savings of maybe a few hundred at the end of the year.

    No room behind sleeper and across the cat walk?
     
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  5. Troady

    Troady Light Load Member

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    To be considered hazmat, have to be greater than 500 gallons, that's what my broker told me when loading small quantities of paint and chemicals.
     
  6. Troady

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    The weight on the tractor, keep me from putting anything else in there, It's heavy enough like It's right now (Volvo 780), we go on the road for 2 or 3 months at a time from home and got a lot of stuff in the truck.
    I can get the tank for $100 from a friend, will have to count just the mounting materials and the labor to fasten it under the trailer. The 12 volt transfer pump with hoses and everything, cost $70 on ebay.
     
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  7. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    If you put the tank behind the landing gear you will be looking at about a 3 pounds to trailer and 4 pounds to drive axles for every gallon added. I also have a heavy truck. I am always playing the fuel weight game.
    Bobtail and full of fuel/def I am 21800 and trailer is 15200 when full.
    Truck holds 225 and 20(?)def trailer 75

    If weight is already an issue for you then why try to have even more fuel capacity?
     
  8. Hegemeister

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    Keep in mind that the difference in state prices is largely due to different tax rates. IFTA taxes ultimately are paid according to the miles driven in each state, not how much fuel is purchased. You will not be saving any money once IFTA is calculated and paid.
    Your just going to be carrying around extra weight.
     
  9. Troady

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    My main problem is weight on front axle, drives can have 34,000. The stuff we carry plus the apu under the cab, get me close to 12,000 on front axle everytime we got full tanks.
    I do own tractor and trailer looking for my own loads, i never load heavier than 43k. Most of the time half that weight.
     
  10. Ridgeline

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    Learn how to leverage the fuel taxes to reduce the costs.

    Also reduce the crap you have in the truck, I used 12 to 16 weeks out at a time and never had to carry much more than some food and clothing.
     
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