Finally Getting Serious

Discussion in 'Swift' started by Injun, Dec 16, 2011.

  1. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

    9,922
    3,713
    May 6, 2007
    Mississippi
    0
    Company I work for won't benefit from a rear end at another.

    We have a 10 year waiting period for ALL drivers involved in a rear end collision.
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

    12,812
    6,136
    Jul 22, 2008
    Owensboro , KY
    0
    And some of them are buying time . I see plenty of them speeding , tailgating , and changing from lane to lane .
    Thursday a.m. I was coming South on I-75 doing the 55 m.p.h. speed limit in the center lane when a UPS Freight came flying by me in the right lane .
    Yeah , Teamsters are all about safety pushing for a 10 hour drive limit .
     
  4. bluebonn

    bluebonn Road Train Member

    1,026
    723
    Aug 21, 2010
    Texas
    0
    Great should be a standard everywhere
     
  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

    15,169
    33,410
    Dec 17, 2010
    Williesburg, Virignia
    0
    I guess I am in 100% disagreement with your opinion. I don't see any situation where the driver of a CMV is guiltless after rear ending a vehicle in front of them. If the traffic is such that you can't maintain a safe following distance, then slow down to such a speed where you can maintain total 100% control of your rig. It's a royal pain in the butt to do, but I have done it many times. To my way of thinking it's simple, when you get behind the controls of a CMV you take on the added responsibility of understanding your vehicle is both larger and heaver then most of the traffic that is around it. It's my opinion that if you rear end a vehicle in front of you, you have shown that you can not maintain control of your vehicle in ALL situations, and yes you should at a minimum have some follow up training on driving in traffic, and if this fails you should be fired.
     
    DenaliDad and biker dave Thank this.
  6. bonder45

    bonder45 Road Train Member

    1,803
    5,450
    Oct 2, 2011
    Williston, ND
    0
    ...just because he knows how to drive doesn't mean you have to rag on him :biggrin_25523:
     
  7. 7122894003481

    7122894003481 Bobtail Member

    1
    1,996
    Sep 6, 2011
    0
    Why would you do 55 in the middle lane? UNLESS you were going through a city, or there were a bunch of ramps or something, then its cool......But if its wide open interstate and you are doing 55 in the middle lane....Thats a problem.
     
  8. oc83baker

    oc83baker Medium Load Member

    410
    127
    Jan 18, 2011
    all 48
    0
    Technically its ok (all lanes are 55mph their are no fast lane or slow lane, 55 is 55 in all lanes) but realistically its not ok , I hate when they do it and I have to pass them in the right lane, but if I gotta go I just do what I gotta do to get by and leave them alone.
     
  9. alexlockhart

    alexlockhart Bobtail Member

    47
    49
    Jun 28, 2011
    Medford, OR
    0
    I'm glad that Swift is finally putting some teeth behind their usual BS safety messages on the QC. Hopefully drivers will start to take them as seriously as they seem to be intending. We've all seen CMV drivers (including Swift drivers) following too close or taking turns too quickly or changing lanes without checking, etc. These are inexcusable behaviors and should be dealt with seriously, and it seems that's going to happen. GOOD!

    HOWEVER, I agree with several here who have given examples of a rear-end collision which is entirely the fault of the vehicle in front, and unavoidable by the vehicle following. Harvey's example of the pickup careening sideways from the lane next to him and right in front is perfect. Or anytime a car makes a fast change across 3 or more lanes to make a last-minute exit, they are often on the brakes and switching into your lane just feet in front of you. Or when traffic is coming to a sudden stop, and a car in the lane next to you jumps right in front to get around the semi in front of it. They can't see ahead of them until they're in your lane, and they hit their brakes as they change into your lane. You're already on the brakes hard because you saw ahead of time that traffic is stopping, but the car suddenly takes your carefully-guarded following distance, and they can stop faster than you. There's nothing you can do, or should have done - it's entirely their fault that you hit them.

    So, to be fired for such instances, no questions asked, is ridiculous. No questions? Even when the officer (or court) determines it to be the fault of the car in front? Such things do happen. In that case, Swift deserves to lose that good driver they unjustly fired, and he ought to take his skills elsewhere.

    Those are rare incidents, and maybe Swift decides that they can afford to lose the few percent that were driving well, because they don't want to ask questions. Fine, but don't pretend that ALL rear-ends are the fault of the following vehicle.
     
    capthook Thanks this.
  10. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

    9,922
    3,713
    May 6, 2007
    Mississippi
    0

    Ever notice that guy at the scene with a badge AND a gun?

    Ever hear of a rear end NOT resulting in a ticket to the person in the rear most vehicle? If so, how many?

    I know of 1.

    And it wasn't a rear ender. But it's on the guys DAC as a rear end. He hit the rear left corner of the car, with the side of his cab.
     
  11. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

    5,150
    2,288
    Jul 25, 2008
    kicked back in my lazyboy...
    0
    Not all rear end accidents are so cut and dry.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.