Finding that good ground

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by Kansas, Jul 24, 2011.

  1. Kansas

    Kansas Road Train Member

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    So here we go, im home got a few days off and am gonna take some time to get my "new to me" Connex 4300-400 working.

    Right now it sounds like hammered cat crap, drivers tell me its loud, but want me to stop talking as nobody can understand me LOL.

    SWR's are off the scale. Put a short test ground on the bracket just to see, and I saw the swr drop a little, but still way WAY high. Im using an Radio Shack Meter.

    Talked to Sparkys CB shop. Was told to take the CB Power ground wire to chassis and not to battery. So Ill get that changed tomorrow. He was also pretty sure all my problems are ground related.

    Truck is a Volvo, and im using a bird perch mount with a Browning antenna.

    Suggestions?

    BTW, meter says the radio is doing well over 200+ watts :biggrin_25514:does this sound right?
     
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  3. Yup

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    turn the mic gain back to 12:00 and go from there
    You sure its a 43/400? if so how?

    If that radio is only doing 200 pep it isnt a 43/400
    What you have is a 43/300, huge difference tween the two
    regarding pep wattage.
     
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  4. Kansas

    Kansas Road Train Member

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    What ya mean am I sure its a 4300 400? Says it right on the front...

    Its not a 300 if that's what you was wondering?
     
  5. Kansas

    Kansas Road Train Member

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    I just ran outside and checked the meter again. On the 200w setting it pegs the meter. I moved it to 2000w and it looks to me like it was about 250w dead key, just keyed up not talking. With the RF turned all the way down.

    I dont really know anything about this radio. For all I know its burned up sliced diced and trashed. I traded a guy my stryker for it. He said it worked good, but ya never know...
     
  6. Xcis

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    First, do not continue to use the radio until the standing wave ratio [SWR]reading is down below 3.0 using an external SWR meter.
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    A reading of 3.0 or higher indicates a connection problem. Continued use of the radio can damage the power transistors. That can leave you with a radio that has a quarter mile of range or less. And that is quite expensive to repair or replace.
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    With a multimeter [volt/ohm meter] on the lowest scale, check the resistance between the antenna mount and the door where the door is connected to the upper door hinge. It should read zero. If not, run a 10 gauge wire from the antenna mount to the upper bolt that mounts the door to the upper door hinge.
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    Next check the resistance from the antenna mount to the door frame using the lowest scale on the multimeter. It should be zero. If not, again run a 10 gauge wire, this time from the upper bolt that mounts the door to the upper door hinge. Connect the other end to the upper bolt that connects the hinge to the door frame.
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    It may look like you are shorting the door to the frame by bypassing the hinge. What you are actually doing is "bonding" the large metal parts of the truck (door and cab frame) into one very large antenna ground plane for RF [radio frequency] purposes. In simplest terms, a large enough antenna ground plane allows the antenna to be all that it is capable of being. Without enough ground plane, an excessive amount of your signal is not being transmitted out the antenna. Instead, it is reflected back to the radio and that can raise havoc with the radio power transistors.
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    Recheck your SWR with an external meter.
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    Hopefully, that fixes the SWR problem and you will not need to bond the door frame to the truck chassis.
     
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  7. Mr. PlumCrazy

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    If it showing a 250 watt dead key you might have a problem with the radio. You said new to you so I am assuming you brought it used If it was a shop I would take it back. Hopefully another driver haven't sold you a shot radio
     
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  8. Rat

    Rat Road Train Member

    Something wrong with the radio. They do not do that kind of deadkey.

    Also were do you have the mic gain set at???? Anything more then 12:00 is too much with a connex 4300 series.

    Also with the RF gain turned all the way down it should not show more then 10-15 watts total. With it turned all the way up it may show possibly around 60 ish and swing to 300+ watts.

    Also make sure you have it on AM and not on FM. the talk back is super sensitive on the connex radios. It will pickup any feedback and squeal like a pig. It is best to just leave it off. Make sur ethe 10K switch is off also.

    Oh and I have had two Radio shack meters go bad. Both of them started showing higher then normal SWR when checked against another meter.
     
  9. Kansas

    Kansas Road Train Member

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    Took my little Cobra 18 and hooked it up this morning. SWR reads 1.5 dead on! And there is very little difference between ch 1 and 40. Were talking 1.4 and 1.6 swing on the meter.

    Ill do just as Xcis is saying with the multimeter. I also still need to move the radio ground wire to chassis instead of battery.

    Do yall think since its reading good SWR's with the Cobra that the Connex may already be fried? Or is it because the Connex throws so much power all my little problems are amplified x100?

    I was referring to the watt meter reading on the Radio Shack Meter. That should show a power reading when I key up, but dont talk, right? The little 18 shows about 20w when I do the same thing with it. Actually, its always been a #### good little radio lol.
     
  10. Kansas

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    I have been playing with Mic gain as I test it. I haven't turned it above 50%. Its on AM. The talkback sucks, so I have it turned off, but I figured that was because the radio wasnt transmitting correctly.

    When I key the radio the radio meter moves to between the green and the red marks. It just sits there even when I talk. Yeah, I guess I got a broke ### piece of crap LOL.

    I think ill just send it to sparkys and see what they have to say. Instead of driving myself crazy with the rest of this. Im starting to miss my Stryker...

    Oh, and the Radio Shack meter is brand new as of yesterday. It seems to be behaving very well with the Cobra, but who knows....
     
  11. Rat

    Rat Road Train Member

    I know. As I said, the 4300-400 does not deadkey that high. If it is showing that high of a deadkey that something is not right. Especially with the RF power turned all the way down.
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