fld120 steering problem ! pls someone help me !

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by lmfnj, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. habfleet

    habfleet Light Load Member

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  3. lmfnj

    lmfnj Bobtail Member

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    this is actually only 15 min away from me, have you ever used them ?
     
  4. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    Yes, it can and will also be overworking your steering assist and gearbox causing heat.
     
  5. T800H

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    your problem is caster but I'm sure is way too much caster, when you have negative caster the steering wheel gets lighter, but when you have way too much is totally the opposite, the perfect caster should be 6 degree.

    you have a car carrier which means that a lot has been done to get that truck lower, which leads me to believe that a lot of so called technician have been working on it, and by this I mean that a lot of people can turn wrenches but may of them have no clue of what they're fixing they know how to replace parts, no wonder you have totally done everything on your steering system.
    go get some one that knows what they're doing and come back here and tell us what was it.

    ask questions if they are going to replace something, ask why? then think about it if it doesn't make sense to you walk away, until you find some one that is not afraid to tell you what's wrong with your truck and what he's going to do to correct it and ask for warranty, I know it's getting harder and harder to find real technicians, any body can get a certificate but many have no clue.

    good luck and let us know, when you find a good shop get the technicians name and spread the word, but do the same when some one made you throw expensive parts to the truck and no fix to the problem,

    I'm sick and tired of ripoff shops.
     
  6. lmfnj

    lmfnj Bobtail Member

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    i did some experimenting today, i jacked up the truck and disconnected the pitman arm, started the truck and moved the wheel around, it felt it was bit stiff, then i turned off the truck and moved the wheel again, and to my shocking surprise it almost felt the same as it did with the truck running, i reved the motor to see if it would improve but it didn't, i checked out the steering column and yolks and all are timed and moving good, could i be having issue with the power steering ?i get the whole caster thing but why the stiffness ??? are the boxes im getting from freightliner crap ?
     
  7. 2bit

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    Did you replace the hoses? The inner liner on the suction hose could be collapsing internally, starving the pump for oil. I would say you've definitely limited your problem to the box, pump, steering column.
     
  8. bender

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    With the pitman arm removed and no load on the gearbox output shaft, there wouldn't be much if any difference as it isn't required to do anything.

    Gearboxes have been set up tight causing steering wheel to stay at last position steered, not retuning to center and the need to continuously correct the wheel while driving a straight road. Each correction of the wheel causes oversteer the other direction and you are herding the truck down the road, same as lack of caster, constantly correcting to stay on top of it, exhausting!
     
  9. lmfnj

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    i didn't replace the hoses but when i had them off i blew air thru them and it felt clear and had a pressure guage hooked up thru the system and got good pressure over 2300psi. hmmm bender so you're saying the box is set too tight ??? since the column is moving free when unhooked from steering box...what you have described is exactly what is happening, plus the wheel is stiff so making the corrections is killing my arms/hand, this truck beats the #### out of me after an hour of driving grrr....
     
  10. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    I had the return line replaced on my fld several years ago. Then
    I could not steer it or turn. Was worse than armstrong steering.
    Found out they put the wrong style return hose on it..
     
  11. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    Gearbox set too tight and or lack of caster.
    Correct caster eases steering effort and makes the truck track well.
    I've had to make adjustments to steering gearboxes on new trucks due to them being too snug. They didn't steer correctly until I did. Many were aligned multiple times before I got them. When I would find that the gear was tight they would call me a liar, until the drivers jumped for joy that it was finally fixed. There is some great input here, use it all.
     
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