FMCSA taking comments about detention

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by mitmaks, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    No.

    Shippers & Receivers have escaped regs to long, putting the burden on Carriers.

    It's time they play by the same rules.
     
  2. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    FMCSA has no power to regulate shippers and receivers.

    If you’re not getting detention pay it’s on you to go after it. There are plenty of ya who get it.

    I don’t want there to be an industry standard for detention, I want to be able to get what I can get.
     
  3. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    And you still can get any rate you want on detention. You can even give your time away for FREE if you want. You just have to log it. This way at the end of the week people don't try to make up for giving their time away for free. You have to pay the price for your choice. We also stop companies from giving drivers time away for free. Because they will be faced with the same problem. Drives will be out of hours.
     
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  4. Brandt

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    That's correct, you force them to pay more, by forcing the trucking companies to pay the price for sitting for free. When the trucking companies have to stop the trucks because driver is out of hours. They have a problem to solve, they will need more per mile or detention pay or a different customer who is willing to pay the price for a truck and drivers waiting to get loaded or unloading.

    You solve the problem by putting the pressure on the trucking companies. They will then put the pressure on the shippers and receivers or go out of business.
     
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  5. Long FLD

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    In my opinion you nailed it with this. The only time I can log off duty and get compensated is if we get sent off site because they don’t have room for the product. If they want me to stay on site and leave my hose hooked up then I am on duty.

    I’d also be willing to bet that the big companies don’t tie up their trucks and trailers for free, they just expect their drivers to sit for free.
     
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  6. KB3MMX

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    BINGO


    Wasn't taking about pricing is you reread my post. It's making all these ### clowns play by the same rules.

    IF the government really wanted a level playing field by the rules they could do it. However they don't... It's ruled by special interest $$$$$$$$$ Corruption. (ATA)


    Not allowing people to give away time is the method to get change by inflicting financial harm from HOS abuse.



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  7. LondRanger

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    only way this is fixed if FMCSA says detention is mandatory after 1 hour and min let’s say $100 per hour after the first hour.

    You will see how quickly shippers and receivers get the load on and off of your rig Especially with lumpers.

    I have seriously tripled my detention rate because of lumpers.

    If a broker wants me to run a load that requires a lumper to load and unload, my rates are as follows.

    1.25 hours free and $120 per hour parked after. Take it or leave it.

    This is done because I have a 14 hour limit per day. That’s 11 hours of drive time and 3 hours to get loaded and unloaded. Not going to let the shipper or receiver have me at the dock for 6 hours not get me unloaded, while I lose money.

    Believe me when they have to pay? They start unloading fast.
     
  8. Long FLD

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    Many people have figured out how to not give away their time so I don’t think the all mighty government should have to make rules for those that haven’t.
     
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  9. tman78

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    Until Truckers have a Union and a Lobbyist working on their behalf, they will continue to get ****ked by the Politicians and other interests groups.

    PS. Attorneys LOVE to sue Truckers (and Trucking co's). Can you trust an Attorney?
     
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  10. starmac

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    Unless working on a rig has changed, it is not what I would want to compare trucking to. lol
    For one it is the onluy industry with NO breaks, lunch or other wise, you may have a little free time when slow drilling on a deep hole, but tripping pipe, it is balls to the walls for the whole shift.
    If they are drilling with a hundred or so miles, here is no prudemn usually, usually the crew does ride in the same rig to work, but most have to furnish a rig, that travel time is not generally paid.
    When it is in a big drilling area, generally the drilling company puts its hands in a camp, and fiurnishes meals, again no prudemn on these jobs. '
    Lastly the work is several times harder, and 100 times dirtier than trucking.
    I would never again roughneck for the same money as driving a truck, and make more than any roughneck I know of. now.

    Now it has been years since I roughnecked, some things have probably changed, but I am around the rigs and haul them too, the rigs them selves are pretty much the same, so I assume the work is pretty close to.
     
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