Fuel Milage Poll

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by GearWarrant, Mar 29, 2014.

  1. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Tag vs lift axle.

    My thoughts and questions on this: a tag axle is basically nothing but a trailer axle right? Ha no driveline going to it and free spinning all the time.

    Lift axle is a free spinning axle(basically that lifts off the ground when load weight allows.

    If there is no benefit to a lift axle then why do we put them on trailers and get an immediate gain. Some guys report as much as a half a mile to the gallon difference when picking that axle up.
     
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  3. GearWarrant

    GearWarrant Medium Load Member

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    Anybody care to share their truck specs?
     
  4. Licensed to kill

    Licensed to kill Heavy Load Member

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    Year 2005
    Make Pete
    Model 379
    Engine MXS C15 cat
    Trans 18sp
    Gear Ratio 3:90
    Tire Size 11r 24.5
    Type of loads water and pulling equipment (about 100,000lbs loaded)
    Normal Cruising Speed 65mph
    MPG (or GPM, LOL) Don't know, don't care. I do quite a bit of idling and the cost of fuel does not take a significant chunk out of my bottom line.
    Only mods, PDI stage 1 by Haney and Donaldson free flow mufflers.
     
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  5. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    On a trailer you are taking weight from a low rr trailer tire and placing it on another low rr trailer tire. So unlike the drive, there is no change in rolling resistance. But you are still getting the benefit of less rotational inertia so it does takes less energy to accelerate.

    But 0.5mpg? Get real. These must be the same guys getting 0.1mpg from the turbo3000D.

    See: http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/c/confirmation_bias.htm
     
  6. rjones56

    rjones56 Heavy Load Member

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    1990 Western Star
    4964F
    3406B factory 425hp
    14615 trans(15 over)
    3.70 eatons
    11r24.5 Kelly KDA drives( going with all-position in the next few weeks)
    mostly empty 1 way, 86,000#-95,000# gross the other way
    less than 4mpg when I started. Was 5.6mpg until winter blended fuel and idling dropped to 4.7mpg. Added Taylor wing back @ 5.2 or better now.
    Speed limit plus 10%. Anything less and I get sleepy.
     
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  7. Cat sdp

    Cat sdp . .

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    Kw T-800
    cat c-15
    RTLO18918B
    3.73 rears
    11R24.5 rubber
    107k every load...... Mt on return.

    speed limit and or flow of traffic

    best days in the summer 5.8 mpg ..... Worst in the winter 4.5 mpg
     
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  8. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    So how much would you say it gains?
     
  9. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    what's your top 2 ratios?
     
  10. Davidlee

    Davidlee Medium Load Member

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    Loss of traction under light loads and/or slow road speeds can be remedied with an air spring spacer or a proportioning valve. Fully loaded and hung up in a driveway or parking lot will require the use of a dump valve to get going again.
     
  11. Davidlee

    Davidlee Medium Load Member

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    According to hendrickson, increased tire life and lower maintenance costs is the benefit of installing a trailer axle lift kit. I suppose the fuel savings is to small for them to even mention.
     
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