"General Public" and a strike. HELP!!!

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  1. GuysLady

    GuysLady Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Who knows Peashooter! You may have sat at my mother's table. We always had the most fun when the drivers were around.

    No educating the general public is NOT easy, but it is worth it! And there are those of us who do as much as we can.

    I never thought about the fact that some of you may have been at Momma's table... anyone remember Curtis and Debbie at Klink in Ivanhoe?
     
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  3. cajun

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    i'm not an expert on these matters, i just know that increased freight costs ultimately get passed on to the consumer that is struggling just as most truckers are. i guess there is no easy solution, i don't buy into the evil oil big corp. thing. yes they make a lot of money but, their profit margin isn't that large. we must find a way to lower oil prices and other costs of operating while getting some of the other problems that you mention with the economy straight IMO.
     
  4. yoda

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    The calls for truckers to shut down the whole country to bring about CHANGE ring hollow when you think about the entire scope of the problem.

    The Canadian currency has gained virtual PARR with American currency. Just 2 short years ago a Canadian dollar was worth 68 cents.

    The hyper inflation ( yes it does exist as anyone buying groceries can plainly see) we are experiencing in the USA NOW reflects the loss in value the current financial markets have imposed on the entire USA.

    Free trade has become job flight to an extent no one would have believed if you had ( like Ross Perot) predicted it. The loss of income to working Americana is finally so great that it is reflected in the entire USA economy.

    The "great Society" answer is to give everyone a check to spend to restart the American consumer economy with no one recognizing that the American consumer is groaning under Debt and underemployment.

    The "conservative" government outspent the "liberal" government while also being engaged in a mismanaged battle with one of the groups contesting with America for world domination. War profiteering has further deepened the financial crises of the government.

    Taxes which the government shifted while pretending to cut can no longer even pretend to attempt to fill the coffers of the government that have no bottoms to them. The answer of every politician is spend more money to buy votes. The anger of the citizens is against anyone who dares to suggest that government give aways is not the answer.

    A solution for one sector that involved drying up the income stream is only a disaster shifter. They steal the highway funds to build railroads and wonder why bridges collapse due to faked inspections ( this after a similar collapse 20 years ago exposed the sham inspections money saving schemes.)

    To call for trucks to finish off the American republic, to make conditions so bad that the citizens will riot and overthrow the government is to fall for the same trap the Germans fell for 2/3rds of a century ago.. Doesn't anyone learn from past mistakes?

    The general public does not need to fall for strike calls, they need to learn to demand better representation from those they allowed to hold office in their name.
    Frustration leads to seemingly easy answers, but no actual solutions are being proposed, simply blind calls for tantrums.

    Even many truckers can see this path is not the answer, and hopefully many general citizens will not fall for the hyped tantrum either. Now is the time to discover and propose solutions through the constitution not scrap it for some LEADERS visions of how to make quick easy fixes to undefined problems.
     
  5. cajun

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    i've never advocated for a strike, as a matter of fact you can go back to some of my older posts. i said in one that it would never work, not enough organization and the only way it would have any real effect would be if EVERYONE shut down, companies too. that's NOT going to happen though, most americans will never stick together enough to get something accomplished for the greater good.
     
  6. yoda

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    The main reason it is not gaining massive support is the lack of any clear "something" that will do "anything" for the "greater good" that would result from a shut down, I have asked and asked for that explanation but so far.... just generalizations like "we need to bring down the cost of fuel"
     
  7. cajun

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    and the only thing i've seen you advocating for so far is raising freight rates,fsc, etc. that's not going to solve the problem, if you have the solution i'd love to hear it.
     
  8. BigDiesel

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    Raising rates and the FSC does solve a problem..... it is the sign of a good business person.



    Or do you just want to have the Gov't take care of you from cradle to grave......:biggrin_2556:

    What has happened to personal responsibility these days and not depending on others to correct ones mistakes ????
     
  9. cajun

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    i've also never advocated for government intervention, the last thing i want is more govt. in my life.
    please explain to me how raising rates is going to be good for the economy.
     
  10. yoda

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    I will try to begin the explanation, keeping in mind that the topic here is "the General Public and a strike HELP.

    To begin with as a small business man and citizen of the USA I am determined to run a small business at a profit so that my business does not fail. I will contribute my share to the economy no matter how onerous costs become by making all of those costs pass through to those who I provide the service to, keeping my business open.

    The hyper inflation cannot be stopped, it is a function of the loss of worth of American dollars due to poor practices in the investment community and poor leadership by politicians.
    By keeping my business open, I will be prepared to do my share in the eventual rebuilding of a strong economy that will come as long as America is not overthrown by careless people unknowingly promoting socialism and protection from the government.
    By keeping my business open I will keep my small ability to vote my conscience rather than vote for further government intervention and salvation.

    The careless ( it was not deliberate it was a function of not understanding how far some seemingly small corrupt practices would spread in the search for personal wealth by those with no moral compass to stop them from fraud and corruption) actions that precipitated this economic collapse ( yes it is a collapse of the existing economy based on false growth and unmonitored debt) have insured the exposure of most of the corrupt practices while the collapse is continuing.

    Financial houses of cards will continue to collapse in upon themselves. The oil futures house is one of them, that collapse will not be hastened, nor ameliorated by a strike. Raising my rates to what ever level is required to survive will not hasten that collapse either, but striking would in fact only cloud the issue by continuing to hide the true problem in some government can lower prices mystical misunderstanding of the true culprit corruption in financial institutions including fraud on a massive scale in futures and commodities trading.

    The good for the economy will come in the future, when Americans rise above the corruption and start rebuilding America with true wealth. I will be available as a trucker to provide transportation just as I do now.

    The general public should in fact pray that I and many more like me are able to survive, it will make the rebuilding that much easier and faster.
     
  11. MtnMadness

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    Man that Yoda sure uses some big words! He must have a college edumacation!
     
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