Getting Back Into It

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by TheOtherJack, May 11, 2025.

  1. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Let us know which company you go with; just curious!
     
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  3. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I went to a for-profit CDL school, $3500 in '94 for 3 weeks. I had no money, was very nearly homeless. I had a job waiting for me the Monday after completing school. MOST students take out a loan to pay for school, the school will point you to a lender. Half of the trucking companies that hire newbies out of school also provide TR, a tuition reimbursement benefit. TR typically pays a fixed additional amount monthly or per paycheck in addition to the wages earned by driving and accessory pay. I happily signed for a school loan. My company paid me Tuition Reimbursement. 1st year pay is pretty small, so don't believe the numbers on company web sites. You will not make anything like that in your first year because you don't know how to use your hours efficiently. You've never had a job before where you receive so little useful info but are expected to do so much. It is not like a long car trip you took before.

    IMO, as signing a 1 year contract with an employer, IF IT FITS WHAT YOU NEED, is OK and having a leash around your neck SHOULD concentrate your mind and give you sufficient reason to be EXTRA careful and not be the typical newbie hitting 4 things and quitting long before your 1 year is up like the 80% of newbies. Company school gives you the most hand-holding on how the company wants you to do things THE COMPANY WAY. Your job is to do things the company way, not do things your way in their truck. You are going to have numerous days and weeks when things feel like they are going the wrong way. You are not looking to continue doing what you want your way. You are walking into an already running industry, company, with procedures and your job is to demonstrate you can follow them and produce results they want. A contract is both a leash and security. The alternatives to that leash (schools) allow students & newbies to persist in their dysfunctional 4-wheeler ways instead of adopting the CDL ways. Your success depends on adopting CDL ways and making them your habit. The alternatives is your current problems PLUS looking for another starter job with LESS going for you if you get tickets or hit things and leave for pay less than you were expecting 2 weeks in a row. There will be weeks with a lot less money than you are counting on, there always are until you learn the system and reliably make ALL APPOINTMENTS on time.

    The turnover rate at trucking companies for newbies is high because they are trucking companies, not baby-sitting services. Newbies think they will have lots of hand holding and calm patient instruction or driving a big truck is almost the same as driving a 4-wheeler which they already know how to do, and stare at their phone, so leave me alone. Neither is true. This only works once you fit into the already running machine. It's not a partnership where you and the company will adapt procedures to your way. You fit or you leave. Leaving with much less than 12 months experience and with accidents, tickets, etc is going to leave you worse off than you are right now.
     
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  4. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Of course, you are free to do whatever you want. If you want to go the company-paid route, that is your right. I think you owe it to yourself to at least check out the financial Office at these schools first. Even with company-paid, in most situations, they will deduct a portion of the money for school out of your check. The company does not pay 100%. I HIGHLY recommend checking those schools out first!
     
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  5. TheOtherJack

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    Here's the update...

    • Stranded at a truck stop in my 14ft box truck / tiny home on wheels. The transmission has gone out. Second vehicle in a row that some "honest" person sold me with a bad transmission (and other problems). Over $6,000 spent between those used vehicles, including repairs. I trust my fellow humans too much. Remember that God only found 8 people worth keeping in the DAYS OF NOAH. I didn't agree with that until I experienced homelessness.
    • I called a few companies and ignored the ones that demand a hair-follicle test. I am the author of the book Marijuana in the Bible: Cannabis in the Tanakh, Divine Mathematics and the Cure for Cancer. I won't smoke while being a driver, of course, but I am obviously an advocate of the plant and a hair-follicle test can detect THC up to about 90-days.
    • The schools in Jackson are too costly. I produced over 120 audiobooks while living in a storage unit (see my book How to Live in a Storage Unit or Other Place You Don't Belong) and Amazon continues to steal my royalties, so I simply don't have the funds for a school.
    • I left Jackson because I was approached/harassed by the police 4 times (3 times in racist Ridgeland and 1 time in Jackson), and recently was approached/harassed/interrogated by the police here at the truck stop that my wife and I are stranded at. That's 5 times in less than 2 months! As a trucker, I have traveled to all of the lower 48, and I've been to every major city in the USA. I have lived in numerous states, and I HAVE NEVER been approached/harassed/interrogated by the police. I don't have a criminal record. I am tired of Mississippi and its police force, and terrible leadership. I spent 7 years in Mexico -- that country is covered in trash -- and yet Jackson is perhaps the worst American city I have ever seen, rivaling the worst ugliness and filth of Mexico. Hopefully, American Forces will be able to assist Mexico...and hopefully, the people of Jackson will vote for better leadership.
    • I called Wilson Trucking, and the recruiter was simply an A-hole that demanded "3 years of proven employment" even though I have been self-employed for years, with a catalog of books and audiobooks, proving self-employment. He demanded pay stubs, but my evidence (including emails to the FBI) concerning Amazon's theft of my royalties still wasn't good enough. Interestingly, the recruiter has the surname of the bully that used to smack me on the back of the head during lunchtime in elementary school. Showing over a year working as a slave for DoorDash and InstaCart also wasn't enough (see my book Chasing the Carrot: How Instacart & Other Gig Economy Companies Exploit the Poor). I hope to get my CDL back and send Wilson a photo of me in whatever tractor that my employer allots to me (hopefully a Freightliner or something equally as roomy)...along with saluting their company with my middle finger.
    • I spoke with CR England -- the company that I first earned my CDL through many years ago -- and they said they would take me on, but that are unwilling to pay for a Greyhound ticket. I hung up the phone, but since I am desperate, I am planning to hitchhike to their school, alongside my wife, and see if those cheap scumbags will give me a chance. If not, I will simply continue to pursue getting my CDL back, either through a school or through one of these companies that has a school.
    Thank you for all the thoughtful and informative replies. Stay safe out there -- rubber down, shiny side up.

    With sincerity,
    Jack
     
  6. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Did Schneider reject you?
     
  7. TheOtherJack

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    I actually drove for Schneider before. I was on their lease program that allowed drivers to pick their own loads. An exceptional program. My highest paycheck was $3,400 in one week -- typically earning close to, or slightly above, $2,000 net profit weekly (even after the price of fuel, insurance, and an expensive lease). Other drivers claimed to consistently earn even more.

    Visitation issues with my son contributed to depression, and I parked my truck at a truck stop in Laredo, Texas, and went homeless intentionally...intending to go live in the woods and get away from society. I went as far north as Billings, Montana, but eventually went down into Arizona, and then to San Diego, California, where I lived in a storage unit for over a year, recording audiobooks. Upon accruing $600 in royalties, after producing nearly 100 audiobooks, I realized I could afford to rent a $150 a month apartment in Mexico...and left the USA. I spent 7 years there, reuniting with a woman (now my wife) whom I had impregnated some years before. We were robbed at gunpoint by a group of Mexican police officers in the mountains of Queretaro in November of 2021, and then survived a kidnapping attempt on my nine-year-old daughter by Cartel Golfo on January 13, 2023 at ~0100 in the city of Reynosa (bordering with McAllen, Texas). A few months later, in March of 2023, the Gulf Cartel succeeded in kidnapping four black Americans, torturing them, and executing two of them.

    I have some brief US Navy and militia training, that kept my family alive.

    Needless to say, although I do not have an "abandoned vehicle" on my record, Schneider did not appreciate that I left their vehicle at the truck stop down the road from their Laredo yard.

    Picking your own loads is a far superior driving experience than working with dispatchers, and I recommend Schneider to anyone looking for a great trucking company.
     
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