I am an Illinois private carrier. I own two semi trucks, Freightliner Columbia and Freightliner FLD.
I never do straight trucking/hauling for others, I use my trucks to move machinery and do scrap metal.
That said, we recently bought a 30 ton 2 axle gooseneck trailer and it looks like we will be hauling heavier loads.
My question is, 1) how much can I realistically haul with a five axle combination vehicle with drive and trailer axles at 20,000 lbs each, without blowing up tire and breaking anything and 2) Do you have any advise for driving while heavy. Say, I had some trouble starting uphill when heavily loaded. That sort of thing. Thanks
Getting into hauling heavy stuff, need experienced advice
Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by ichudov, Dec 2, 2017.
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Absulate max weight does not matter. You haul whatever is legal. Look at all your axle and tire ratings and any max ratings for whichever state you are in. Go scale your truck empty. The max is all those ratings added up and subtract the empty weight.
Don't forget to scale loaded to make sure individual axles are not overweight.Hegemeister and ichudov Thank this. -
If you have trouble starting uphill, get on the trolley and have it set full. Move your feet after releasing trolley to put down that clutch under power to the tractor and apply fuel. DO NOT for whatever reason try to shift even if you are at red line until the gravity's most dangerous part of uphill (Such as trying to get out of a side street in a stop sign etc) is over. Do not run your truck against the red line upgrade for more than a few moments, you will burn your pyrometer.
If you are going to turn with a heavy load after getting started upgrade onto another road, DO NOT SHIFT until that turn is completed. It's hard for me to explain just how gravity can stab you in the back at the 5th wheel and frame should you try to shift with half your trailer still hanging downhill.ichudov Thanks this. -
Depending on what your equipment is rated for ... Illinois will permit up to 24k on a single, 48k on a tandem, and 60k on a tridem. If you are a 5 axle tractor they will permit up to 100k. If you only have a 30 ton trailer .... and you're running day cabs. You will be hard pressed to hit the state's weight limit of 34k on a tandem and 80k gross before you exceed the limits of your equipment.
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seems like a basic trucking 101 question coming from a veteran trucker. Not trying to sound like a prick buddy, just confused
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I am not a veteran trucker at all. I got my CDL a year ago. I have a driver also.
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I only got one permit in my life and that was for oversize. Sorry for my ignorance. -
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Homework for you:
Green and white regs books 393.100, start there.
1. What is a NONDIVISIBLE load?
2. What’s the difference between DIRECT and INDIRECT securement?
3. How do you find the center of a trailer to load?
Okay, on your trucks, what transmissions do you have? A 10 will do, but on a 9, the gears are spread so far apart that you will have a tough time.
How much can you realistically haul? That depends on your axle spacing for the absolute max. But with a 5 axle, say 93000 lbs. You can do more, but things get trickier from there.
Going uphill heavy, you want to try to avoid doing that from a dead stop. That’s hard on the drivetrain. If you have a transmission with deep reduction, it is much easier to get rolling from a dig. Resist the urge to rev the engine and dump the clutch...that’s a terrible thing to to a drivetrain. Start off on flat ground with a gear that you know can pull without shifting and keep the rpms up high (1500rpms or higher) and walk the hill slowly. You walk down the hill the same way.
For Illinois, do a google search for OPER993. The provisions will tell you everything you need to know about Illinois.kylefitzy, Hegemeister and ichudov Thank this.
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