Glider rules question

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  1. John Bertucci

    John Bertucci Light Load Member

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    I am looking at a Cascadia 2012 with a 12.7 Detroit. It isn't titled as a glider, was just done in a shop of some small trucking company. I want to know if I am going to run into problems possible with this sort of arrangement. Know better than to take it into California, and I heard theres some rule from 1991 about emissions engines and truck years but thats as far as i know. clarification would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
     
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  3. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    Technically if it was not designated as a glider by the manufacturer as indicated in the serial number, then it is a regular 2012 and requires egr,dpf and def emissions.
    Getting the engine swapped to a 60 Series basically means it’s been deleted and is not a legal road worthy truck.
    If you were going to run it local and they don’t check for that sort of thing during the annual inspection you could probably run it. But not for interstate use.
    I know for sure if you were to go to Ontario, Canada and got inspected they will pull the plates off the truck and have it towed.
     
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  4. flood

    flood Road Train Member

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    Sorry but that truck is 100% illegal..

    Will you get caught..? Don't know but the fine is BIG and you could lose the truck
     
  5. AModelCat

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    If the VIN doesn't indicate it is a glider then its most likely just a truck someone swapped an older engine in to. Unfortunately doing that is illegal.
     
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  6. John Bertucci

    John Bertucci Light Load Member

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    OK thanks yall, thats why im a member in this forum! I had a feeling that was the case but ive been seeing alot of these Shady Tree Gliders lately. I had to know, but it makes plenty of sense otherwise everyone would be doing it. By the way, he told me hes done 100,000 miles with the truck and its been fine, i guess its just a matter of time before he gets his cheeks busted.
     
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  7. Sons Hero

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    You would be fine running that truck. I know a guy, I’ve hauled for him before, that buys brand new trucks, delete them right off the bat and he runs all over the place, including California. He has never had a problem. Average DOT has no idea what the mechanics of an engine even are, and if it says Certified Clean Idle on the door, that’s all he will notice
     
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  8. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    The chances of getting caught as a one truck guy are slim. I’d be more worried about the shop that did it and what all the wiring and everything looks like. You could end up with a hack job that could turn into a nightmare down the road.
     
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  9. Sons Hero

    Sons Hero Heavy Load Member

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    Like this? Lol
     
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  10. pavrom

    pavrom Road Train Member

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    I have 3 repowered trucks like that , inspected 25 times and after probably million miles never had any issue with dot
     
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    .. one of them is 2013 cascadia
     
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