Good first truck

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by stone4779, Apr 26, 2013.

  1. stone4779

    stone4779 Bobtail Member

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    I hear you man. Ive had PLENTY (probably all) business deals with friends/family go bad. So yeah I know exactly what you mean. Thats why Im fully prepared to have to pay for everything myself if he cant hold his end. Im sure he can though. I wouldnt just throw down $40K on a truck and trailer and insurance and permits etc if I didnt 100% think the guys responsible. Thatd be retarded. I dont even talk to any of my family that is crappy and wouldnt hold their end of the deal anymore...much less give them money.

    and yeah Ive heard that saying before too. Thats pretty much how I live haha...I know this bodys gonna be READY to go before I am haha.

    and as far as everyone being out to get you money. yup. when you got it, they come. every day. lol

    Like I said a lot of ppl in my family drive, so Ive heard some pretty bad ones. One time I was with my brother and we went up to the east coast to drop off some rolls of steel. Well once we got back down to Texas, when payday came, it was a few hundred short. So we call to find out what the deal is..wheres the other few hundred dollars man? Broker says when it was loaded, he "forgot" a roll, so the load is paying less, since less was delivered.

    Either the broker was screwing him, the guy loading the rolls(he was a BIG d*ck, I met this guy..I wouldnt doubt he did something), or the guys unloading.

    Either way, its my fault and his fault. We were so busy with the guy and his attitude, that we didnt count the rolls(I know, stupid).

    So thats a lesson right there lol. ALWAYS count that #### and make somebody sign something. Take pictures if youre really paranoid lol.



    Im still not running from this though. Ive been wanting to get a truck and put it to work for about a year now anyways. I am nervous about it though. be so I would just not want the truck to break. That would be my worst fear.

    Im pretty sure I can do this. I know a few guys who own trucks and dont do jack all day and theyre complete morons. and their making money doing it(nothing).

    My brother is on his way back from NY right now. Truck got $8000 for 6 days. $2000 for him, rest is for the truck. Minus $2500 for fuel.

    He does that 3 times a month, almost every month. Hes been doing the same routes for years. He might switch trucks and switch trucking companies, but he takes the business with him when he does switch companies.

    So like I was saying, I dont see how I can lose, unless my bro gets locked up(could happen) or the truck breaks.
     
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  3. sharecropper

    sharecropper Light Load Member

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    Here is some deals a friend talked to me about, he wanted a truck and not a run down rig so I told him about trucks that come off lease with US Express, they are nice looking freightliners and they get to 400K they turn them into freightliner. Most of these trucks are nice inside and the body is in good shape because they can't turn in trucks with fenders hanging off, they fix everything before they are turned in. These trucks have 60 C Detroit with ten speed auto shifts. These truck are set up to run 68 MPH and if you get 6.9 MPG the truck turns it's self up to 73. I get that with my truck and my son runs the poo out of it. These trucks are on a PM program set up by freightliner. Now if you want to drive for us express they will sell you a new freightliner for almost nothing down and your truck payments run around 2,000 a month. They will run you all the miles you can stand. OK let's say you want to buy a used one and run for yourself then you go to safersystem.dot.gov and fill out a MS-150 and if you have a problem with the form call them and they will walk you throw the form. you have command or contract or private carrier then you list the things you want to haul then have your credit card ready because it cost you 300.00 and you are on your way for a DOT and MC# number with the authority you just applied for. You call a insurance company and get your commerical insurance for 750.000.00 or 1,000.000 if you haul products like cars or 5,000.000 if you've marked hazmat authority. Your insurance company will file your insurance with Gov and you are on your way to have authority for your own company. Have a seat when they tell you what your insurance cost. Now get you a company that helps you with your permits to run in states you want like new york you've got to get a permit if you haul over 18,000 pounds also KY then there is OR you must post a $2,000 bond or your permit company will get you trip permits to run OR. The company that helps you will charge you around $800.00 to make sure you are legal in all states you run. After all information you have given passes safersystem they will send you your DOT and MC number and you are ready to run lease or haul for yourself. Now companies like JB Hunt will pay you to pull their trailers and they start out at something like 1.10 per mile and after you pull for them a short while they up your pay to 1.28 per mile and on top of that you get the fuel surcharge and you top out at about 1.68 per mile and from that point they will give you no less that 2800 miles per week. You haul loads like wal-mart to big service centers as they have a very big account with them. Wal-mart gave finance to Hunt and that's how hunt got started, they are cuzzies. If you run wild then you will need a trailer and each time a broker gives you a load you are ask for DOT and MC# number and from those he knows who you are and where you are from. If you run a truck for hire you must have all of the above Plus CDL and if you haul hazmat you must take the hazmat test as that must be on your CDL. You have to have a tax number or use your SS number if you file that way. You said you have CDL so you are on your way.... Good luck
     
  4. Saddletramp1200

    Saddletramp1200 Road Train Member

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    Trucking is just like anything else. The Decimal point on the check moves tho.
     
  5. stone4779

    stone4779 Bobtail Member

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    THANKS for all that very good info! Thats what kind of info I need!

    The first place I called(Progressive Commercial) quoted me $675/mo but thats for ME for $750,000. IDK what it would run for someone else.

    again thansk a lot for the info on the fees and costs associated. My brother told me he had to come up with about $3000 for everything when he first got his truck. Thats reasonable. You gott pay to play!

    I really need to look harder into the total actual amount its going to cost, and also, what kind of recurring costs are there going to be aside from the actual truck/insurance/maintenance/fuel/broker fee/driver pay. Like every year am I going to have to pay X amount to X agency and X amount to Y agency etc etc.

    I did not know that about JB Hunt. and I did not know that about the US Express trucks. Thats good info too. You would think that they would be in good shape. Its cheaper to maintain a large fleet of trucks since you can buy in bulk..you would think they would be well taken care of.

    Maybe I should just start the truck doing what we know will work and what we know will keep the truck bringing in money?..and just get the reefer and do the shots to NY to start with.

    I spoke with my brother yesterday about this whole thing. He laid a lot down for me over the years, and its slowly sinking in. Maybe tomorrow Ill call around and try to mock up a list of all the fees and stuff to get started.
     
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  6. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    You want a truck that looks decent, but don't need something fancy. You should be able to find a decent truck in the $20-25,000 range. And you can find flat bed trailers for under $10,000.
     
  7. SCHULTZ

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    I run a 2000 w900 with a twin turbo cat and 13 speed I haul flatbeds and have not had any troubles pulls great usually gets around 6.5-7 mpg repairs are fairly cheap easy to work on for the most part. Depending on what you want I paid $25,000 for my truck but it has the sleeper sofa in it fridge sunroof and apu.I had just over a million miles with 200k on a in frame and rebuilt trans. My trailer is a 1999 aluminum great dane with a spread air ride and a lift valve on the front axle and I paid 7500 for it. Before this I had a 2003 classic with a Cummins 10 spd and 425 hp about same mpg didn't pull the mountains and as great it and didn't have the add ons like the w900 paid 15000 for it it basically boils down to your preference what you want I noticed the petes, international 9900, and w900 are top choice for flatbeds. I know I can't complain about my KW it pulls everything I put behind her no problems haven't had any break downs and rides great. Has plenty of room on the inside to stand up with the couch I actually feel somewhat normal when Im taking my 10 hr but that's just me.
     
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