good gears for mountain driving

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Lonewolf2000, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. Lonewolf2000

    Lonewolf2000 Medium Load Member

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    I would like to know what are good gears for controlling speed on steep grades and hair pin turns without over use of brakes?. The truck I learned on is a Volvo sleeper with a 10 speed Eaton. Every truck is different but on 10/13 speeds what are generally safe gears. I don’t want to overheat brakes or deplete air pressure.
    Thanks.
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Too many variables, particularly gross weight. a 1% difference in grade can make a huge difference, a 10,000 lb gross change can make a huge difference. Even high winds can affect a decent on a steep, long grade. Engine braking effectiveness varies with every trucks. Might be gear 7, might be gear 6, might be gear 8. Start conservative, if you find you need to brake in the first 1/4 mile to keep speed in check, brake some more, then carefully drop a gear. But not all grades are consistent from top to bottom and this adds all sorts of other potential issues

    Experience is the best tool to have here. Experience with trucks and weight and experience with the particular grade in question. Better to err on the side of over-cautious until you gain experience and learn the grade, but remember, going down with no need to stop mid-way, and going down with the ABILITY to stop mid-way down are two different things. Too many assume the best and go down much faster than would be safe if they had to stop inside of a quarter mile due to a crash around a curve.
     
  4. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    As STexan said, there's too many variables to answer that correctly. Your rear end ratio, engine and transmission all play in to this. As well as weight, grade, and even road conditions.

    Take Big Savage mountain in Maryland on I-68. My old truck had a 13 speed with 3.36 rears. I'd go down at 80k in 8th, and hardly ever touch the brakes, and maintain 45mph. This new one has a 10 speed with 3.73 rears. At 80k, I'm going down in 7th, never using the brakes, and actually having to accelerate on the flat spots of the hill.

    Unfortunately, Only experience will answer your question.
     
  5. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    In my experience any gearing at 3.42 or lower is terrible for a 60 series on down grades you will never hold speed unless brakes are used with Jakes.
    ISX Jakes hold much better.
    DD engines hold nice on grades with 2.38 gearing and direct 10 speeds.
     
  6. jammer910Z

    jammer910Z Road Train Member

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    Never mind. I erased my comment.

    I've been trucking all day and I'm tired.
    I thunk he meant for climbing... til I read it again.

    I'm going to bed
     
  7. RumbleTruckin

    RumbleTruckin Light Load Member

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    If you are gaining speed when the service brake is off and your engine brake is on, downshift. Use service brake to bring RPM low enough to get in the lower gear.

    Continue process until the fire is out on the trailer brakes.
     
  8. Lonewolf2000

    Lonewolf2000 Medium Load Member

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    I generally do err on the side of caution but experience will help. Just don’t want to learn the hard way if I can help it. But like someone earlier said a lot of variables.
     
  9. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    It what ever gear will hold the truck back with 10psi or less of brake pressure. If your truck has applied brake Aire pressure gauge.

    You use the bakes to get you down the hill because in the winter you don't want to use the engine brake or if the engine brakes goes out you still want to be able to go downhill.

    You use the engine brake to go downhill faster ! Using the engine brake and the regular brakes you can go faster then just using regular brakes.
     
    nax Thanks this.
  10. magoo68

    magoo68 Road Train Member

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    Rear end gears are irrelevant uphill or downhill on steep grades if you have transmission in proper gear to maintain desired rpm .. some are a bit better than others but mainly in top gear
     
  11. Powder Joints

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    My Pete has a eaton 13, rears at 3:55, I run loaded at 79500 to 80000 never have a problem going up or down
     
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