Got my first Overweight ticket....

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  1. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    Well I was moving a conveyor the other day and the notorious MCS officer passes me going the other way and turns around. I thought he was going to pull the truck behind me over because it was a large load on that truck. Well he passes him and pulls me over.

    Before I could get all my paperwork together he was out of the truck and starting to measure the overall length. 102' well he could not get me on that because I have a yearly permit for 120'.... Ok let's look at the width.... 11'8" axle.... Well I have a yearly permit for 15' wide... No go there either.... Ha Ha....

    Well let's weigh the axles, I am licensed for 128k. Ok on the steers and drives but the axle on the conveyor. The conveyor itself is a trailer. Well it has 425 tires on it so good for 20k right? WRONG! You only get 20k if it is on a steer axle, other wise you get 500 lbs per inch of tire width which is 16" each for a total of 16k on that axle. I scaled at 19.4k.

    BTW, in Montana if you are licensed for 128k all your axles still have to be legal on weight unless you buy an overweight permit. This permit will allow you to go over the bridge allowed weight limits.

    Well it was not all that bad, $110 ticket and $7 overweight permit to finish my delivery. Only had 23 miles to go.

    Boss was sure mad about that one.
     
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  3. bigdogpile

    bigdogpile Road Train Member

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    Not to sound like a dic& but isn't your unhappy boss expected to know what weights he's allowed on what axle no matter what size tires he has ?? That cop should of just let you roll your 23 miles without a new permit..
     
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  4. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

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    Both boss and drivers are to know the laws on hauling OS loads, sorry to the OP, but fault lies on both you and boss, there is a book that driver that haul OS, the call it the bible, that's not the real name, if you don't have one might be a good idea to obtaining one, some posted a picture in anther thread, asking "when does a load become OS
     
  5. fortycalglock

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    I'm going to go out out on a limb and say the posters above wouldn't have any clue about being over 100' long, 15' wide or 120,000 pounds.
    I just finished a bunch of towaways, and I hate them with a passion. You never know what you're going to get. At least overweight won't go against your or the company's score.
     
  6. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    The book would not have helped in this case. I knew it was over sized and I had permits for all that, I just did not know it weighed that much or that I did not have a permit for over weight. Our 3 ring binders have copies of the registration for all the trailers that we have. Lots and lots of pages.

    Yeah well when you are once told that they buy 30k over weight permits for every truck quarterly, I did not question that. When pulled over I looked through the huge book we have in every truck and guess what? My truck is the only one in the fleet that they did not purchase an over weight permit for. I did not even dream that the stupid thing weighed that much either. Yeah my fault, but hey boss is paying the fine. Also with the axle being over 11' wide, there is no local scale to weigh it on and I was only going 44 miles with it... figures... LOL

    Live and learn and move on.
     
  7. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

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    Yes! Live and learn and move on, never assume, I've seen drivers pick up legal loads, not scale it, ends up with in over axle weight ticket, best of luck
     
  8. Mr.X

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    At least your not in Idaho! Got a ticket last year, 4000 over gross with a log truck. Thats a criminal offense in Idaho! Gave me two counts, because I was over bridge weight with my Pup also.
    Went to court hoping to explain the circumstances to the judge and maybe get it reduced from 1100.00. Court room was full of convicts, lol, Judge asked If I wanted a jury trial, and made me aware if found guilty there could be up to a year in jail involved, lol... Idaho reminds me of Mexico, they don't want to see your log book, they want your wallet!
     
  9. sbaumann14

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    got to ask this because I REALLY wanna know and no one seems to know the answer.... do we have the right to "plead the 5th"? during a DOT insp, where the officer wants you to move your truck to scale it, flash the lights, apply the brakes or whatever....do we have 5th amendment protection as defined as..

    "the privilege against self-incrimination is "[t]he privilege derived from the Fifth Amendment, U.S. Const., and similar provisions in the constitutions of states....[that] requires the government to prove a criminal case against the defendant without the aid of the defendant as a witness against himself...."[SUP][5][/SUP] To "plead the Fifth" is to refuse to answer a question because the response could form self incriminating evidence

    just curious what do ya think? it's not just statements, but acts as well as defined by the following:

    Black's Law Dictionary (USA):
    SELF-INCRIMINATION: Acts or declarations either as testimony at trial or prior to trial by which one implicates himself in a crime. The Fifth Amendment, U.S. Const. as well as provisions in many state constitutions and laws, prohibit the government from requiring a person to be a witness against himself involuntarily or to furnish evidence against himself.




     
  10. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

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    in short? No, you could try and "plead the 5th" and see how that works out? :biggrin_25513:
     
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