I'm only in my week of orientation right now but I am so looking forward to this new career. I'll be pulling multi-axle flatbeds, starting out in the truck with a mentor on Monday.![]()
Gotta love Flatbed to do Flatbed
Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Hurst, May 12, 2015.
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There have been places a flatbedder will have to do some maneuvering. Think mines on top of a mountain with a single lane road and a 2 acre landing zone to unload and exit. Steel mills and drywall and cement plants can have you backing into buildings that require you to back into separate bays after you already backed into the building. Done a few loads of racks to new warehouses,.. and being a van driver you should know what that ramp looks like going into the warehouse. Now imaging some of the more tighter lots and trying to back a fully loaded 53' spread up that ramp and into a building you cant see into with dumb ### laborers who would let you back into a pole and take down the building just to see it happen.
We have our moments regarding tight spaces. But yes,.. for the most part,.. I'd say a good 80% of my loads,.. its as simple as pull up and swing around to where they want me. When I ran reefer I always had an address for delivery or pick up. Flatbed,.. you get out to places in the mid west,.. or BFE places in Alabama, Tenn, Kentucky,.. even PA has had me scratching my head a few times and studying Google Satellite maps to get my bearings to make it to a delivery that has no address.
As far as delivery times,.. other than a few rare times,.. its been mostly bankers hours. No appts. Typically 8am to 3pm is your window. I try to plan my trips to make AM deliveries so I can reload the same day. I run hard when I am out.
The only time I will have multiple stops is if I managed to score a partial along the way. I'd say partials make up for 15 - 20% of my income.
As far as backing into a space at a truck stop,.. only if I am empty does it become easier. Even a 3 - 4ft tall load blocking the back of the trailer,.. I will be no better off than with a load sitting up at 13'6 - 14'. Backing is like anything else in trucking,.. once you've mastered it,.. it doesnt matter what your pulling,.. you put it where it needs to be.
8 drops in Brooklyn,.. you got me there. But that doesnt mean we dont have to drop in Brooklyn and then hike it over to JFK for a pick up. Or drop over on the east side of Long Island and come back out for an 11ft wide pick up in Trenton,.. as you know will send you over the Narrows and Jerseys brilliant traffic patterns to get out to 287.
Driving is the easy part.
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Take your time and pay attention to everything your mentor says and does. Later you may find different or better ways once on your own. This comes with experience.
The main thing to keep in mind with flat bed is that your load is out there for ALL to see. How you secured it, what you used to secure it and what its doing while you are traveling down the road with it. There are no walls to catch it. Your life as well as those of the families and people sharing the road with you depend on you to keep them safe from your load and your truck.
Its ok to be excited. Just try not to get too ####y and over confident. That load you just spent 2 hours to strap down and tarp. I can almost assure you,.. 20 - 30 mins down the road,.. something loosened up and needs to be re-tightened. Thats the nature of Flatbed. You need to constantly watch that load and check it every few hours to make sure its still secure. I cant tell you how many times I've pulled into a rest area to leave my regards, come back out and check my load only to find a snap binder opened up, or the load shifted and a chain came loose, or a strap came loose. Its not for lack of skill or doing anything wrong. This is the nature of the beast. That curved bridge with the big bump before it thats right in the curve,.. yeah,.. I stop and pull over anytime I hit something like that. Most of the time everything is ok. But its that one time you neglect to check and something falls off and kills someone that will either ruin your career or scar you for life.
Driving is the easy part. Master your skills and maintain a professional attitude. Thats what many drivers forget. We are professionals,.. we are held to a higher standard out there.
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Thanks for the advice!
One thing that was touched on yesterday was the fact that in a hard brake application or if the spring brakes come on while going down the road (hopefully it doesn't get to that point), the truck and trailer will stop, but the load might not (I won't forget this point). Basically saying it's always better to over-secure a load. If you're wondering if you need that extra strap or chain, put it on.
I'll make sure to be careful and not hesitate to ask fellow drivers/anyone else at the company any questions. Losing a load would be absolutely devastating even if no one was hurt. Safety is ALWAYS first.Hurst Thanks this. -
I've done both Flat and Reefer, if I ever need to go back to OTR, It will be with a Flat company, I don't find pulling a flat that difficult, But that just me
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All your securement gears weighs the same whether its hanging on the back of your cab or securing your load.Gereke, tsavory, Dye Guardian and 1 other person Thank this.
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That's what I always say. That chain won't do me any good on the back of the cab
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To add on to Mr Hurst's comment:
There are TWO kinds of drivers out there, ones that make money, and the others who just clog everything up, complain and bellyache about everything, especially about the lack of money in the industry. There are two kinds of trainers, the guys who enjoy training, and the guys who have to train to make money. If your mentor enjoys training, he will be fun to be around and will actually become a good friend. Use him to the fullest. Keep in close contact, even when they assign you your own rig. You will have to work, but that's what we do, right?
If your mentor is a kid (younger than 30)don't immediately write him off as a know nothing young punk. Be a man. If he's respectful to you, give him the respect of a man. If he knows the business, listen and learn. If he IS a punk, keep quiet and just do your time. A punk will be looking for conflict. Remember the mission, to learn the biz and get your own rig. If a punk can drive you to quitting, you're not the man you thought you were.
Don't get caught up in the Beancounter sect. Yes, get loyalty cards from all the major truckstops, but don't allow $5-10 to stop you from getting a shower at a mom and pop joint. REWARD YOURSELF FOR A GOOD DAYS WORK!!!! Grab a shower, put on fresh clothes, eat with a fork and have a cute waitress serve you a cold beverage. If you are a rookie flatbedder, go into the restaurant, sit at the lunch counter and let the other drivers know you are a rookie. If I see you, I will buy your dinner. But when ou get your own rig and see a rookie flatbedder, you have to buy his dinner. Deal?
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You have a person new to the bigroad, trying to make some money for the family. He's riding with a trainer. Some trainers are decent. Some are peericks. But you got a person trying to send money to the house, and all they're getting during training is like $300/week. Yeah you heard a couple sob stories out in the parking lot, but students aren'taren't trying to hustle anyone. They aren't asking for money. If you see one, buy em dinner. Help a driver get through the most difficult part of a driving career.Last edited: May 13, 2015
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I just finished my marina season for spring. Come fall, I'll be bringing the stuff back south. If you think grocery warehouses are bad, try marinas in the Northeast. Also, there's nothing better than blindside backing a 12'wide load up a forklift ramp to get the piece in a 13'6" door. Oh yeah the length of the truck is longer than the space in front of the ramp. Here's some pics.
The nose of my truck is at the end of the concrete with a nice 1 foot drop.
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Nice drop off on sight side as well
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Nice narrow door to back in a 12 wide, 9' tall tarped load. Notice the railings on either side.
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Proving it can be done in the first place.
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Love it!
I know they are just forklift ramps, but you would think when they design these buildings, they know they are going to send flatbed trucks up those ramps if you have a load that would otherwise be impossible for a forklift to get inside.
There is small warehouse in Chicagoland,.. in Bensonville IIRC,.. thats set up just like that. There are maybe 5 - 6 bays as you come in and the last bay is the forklift ramp. The only way to do it is to 90 deg back in off the street and then do another 90 deg blind side up the ramp. They always have those poles and a guardrail down on the ends. The one in Bensonville has big 12" round poles with many battle scars from trailers that if I had to guess,.. lost to the pole.
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