Government regulates everything else time to regulate rates.

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  1. FoolsErrand

    FoolsErrand Road Train Member

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    Every tom dick and harry can become a broker or a trucker. There are already licenses for both. Nothing stops trucks from charging what they want or brokers from charging what they want. Do you think that double brokers are people without broker MC?

    If the brokers get new regulations at the truckers insistence over low rates, the following step will be the truckers getting profit limits at the brokers insistence at the next boom. We will all lose.

    Govt messing with free markets is socialism and a drop of socialism spreads a long long way further than anyone wants. You may or may not know that the income tax is only about a hundred years old and was intended as a temporary funding measure for ww1. It has become a permanent ball and chain for all. Why? Lets ask trotsky, a founding bolshevik as im sure you know.

    My point is socialists and communists love to get into powerful positions and will weaponize every single inch you give them and grow it in every possible way for maximum damage. It always starts as a fix then becomes a weapon. Your fix may be great but it will always morph into what you did not authorize.
     
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  3. JonJon78

    JonJon78 Road Train Member

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    Well what's holding them back from leaving if they dont like it here?
     
  4. rifleman308

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    I’m for the free market and don’t want price controls. I’m only suggesting that leveling the information divide would be a free market solution.
     
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  5. scott180

    scott180 Road Train Member

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    We do have some regulations on most things.
    OSHA has work safety rules. But it is ok for a driver to roast or freeze in a truck.
    Federal and state laws require most employers to pay overtime. But OTR drivers are expected. Why?
    When these rules were put in place drivers made a lot more and it could be reasoned that it is part of CPM pay. But now how is it justified?
    Yes someone could quit and try to find a better job but someone will be desperate enough to take the job.
    If you think because you have more experience and a better job you are fine then you are naive.
    If companies are paying barely minimum wage when all the time is calculated it brings down the wages of everyone.
    Wheel holder barely makes minimum wage but because of all the work he puts in he makes $50k.
    You're worth twice as much.
    You make $100k.
    If wheel holder got paid for all his time and upped his pay to $70k why you don't think you are still worth twice as much?
    Minimum requirements are set all the time to protect workers as well as Industries. This however does not mean that maximums are set. If you are worth more than minimum you can still demand it.
    This isn't socialism, this is the way the rest of our capitalist market works.
     
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  6. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

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    @FoolsErrand licensing for both is different, while one requires more the other not so much.

    what was once a middle class job is now an entry level position.


    There is no coming back from that and the brokers know this.
     
  7. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    It's not a per hour job, milking the clock would be entirely too easy unless they had more prods in the cab to keep you moving. If they were required to pay by the hour they'd be exempted from paying overtime and minimum wage just like ag is.
    The pay stays low because people keep buying into the "get paid to see the country" mentality.
     
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  8. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    When it was deregulated to make room for people like SWIFT to take it over, back in the day...
     
  9. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    That's another discussion
     
  10. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    I'm aware. My point is, many folks don't no it any other way, and some are comfortable in a hard structure society. We only know it this way in America. Its arrogant to think our way is the best and only way.
     
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  11. PPLC

    PPLC Road Train Member

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    Never said that our way was the only way. Or even the best way. What I said is that the alternatives mentioned tend to be objectively worse.

    That said, call me arrogant if you like, but I'm pretty partial to our way of doing things. We as a country afford a good many opportunities for folks to make something of themselves. Speaking from experience at that. I did my time in the Army, worked my ### off, and I have a comfortable living now where my wife and child are taken care of.
     
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