Hazmat but not really?

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  1. RollinChaos

    RollinChaos Light Load Member

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    So the below text was on my BOL. I delivered the load even though I do not have a Hazmat endorsement and the trailer did not have a placard as the BOL said it was not needed.

    But if the contents are called out as Hazardous why is a placard not needed? Should the driver have the endorsement?

    Curious for my own knowledge for next time.


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  3. 201

    201 Road Train Member

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    Hmm, not sure, perhaps it's below the required weight for a placard? I see lighters, did you know Americans go through a BILLION lighters a year? Put Shelton, Conn. on the map. It says "none required", that would be good enough for me. I used to haul Sysco stuff, and even a box of Sterno fuel required a placard. Not sure the same today, but if a shipment needed a placard, I thought it was the shippers responsibility to provide them.
     
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  4. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    Placard requirements depend on material and the amount of said material. Look up, "reportable quantities" for a full explanation.
     
  5. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    No you do not need a hazmat endorsement, you are way under the RQ of the UN1956 (1001 lbs) so you are good to go.

    These should be all consumer quantity levels so ... go!
     
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    dosgatos Medium Load Member

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  7. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    These items are consumer packages falling under limited quantity due to package design, etc.

    I thought the description would mention that.
     
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  8. flood

    flood Road Train Member

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    Hazmat and placards.
    1st basic is weight.. 1001lb of more.. not eact 1 but TOTAL
    2nd is packaging. Kinda like how you can have a load of 55lg drums tanker not requured, the same load in tots requires tanker
    3rd What the hazmat is
    4th does the bol say exempt/placards not required

    I use to pull 43k of car batters from MO -KY. Placards not required but endorsement required. Every other load I would have a 2nd stop to get 1 pallet from another shipper. NOW placards are required.

    I use to pull forklift batteries from Mi-KY 18k-34k placards not required

    I pulled a fedex load from TX-FL that had 1/4 lb of hazmat and I had to fight with them to give me placards.. it was class 7...!! If class 7 is listed "any amount" requires placards
     
  9. Lav-25

    Lav-25 Medium Load Member

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    Spot on
     
  10. Numb

    Numb Crusty Curmudgeon

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    easiest wat to know is look it up in the Haz-Mat books that you should always have handy
     
  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Some HazMat materials are only HM when they are packaged a certain way. It looks like you are hauling cigarette lighters. That's the classic example of what I'm talking about. Imagine one big tank with hundreds or thousands of lighters poured into it. It would be a HazMat load. But if the same liquid is divided and put into individual lighters, it's not HazMat. The BOL is confusing since it shows 3 HazMat items (X in the HM column) but the BOL indicates at bottom no placards are required. It's one good reason to have a HazMat endorsement whether you plan on using it or not, you are legal if you have the endorsement even if the customer screws up the paperwork.
     
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