Heavy Haul Vs Regular Haul

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  1. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    Good info

    Really didn’t know that.

    Kinda weird running through the same mountains unloaded today.

    Almost more of a fight keeping the empty truck on the road in the curves as what was loaded
     
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  3. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    Yep surprised they aren’t ticketing for that. Had a guy a couple weeks ago entering from the shoulder so I slowed down and moved to far left lane

    No one else on the road 11 at night and 300 feet in front of me the guy comes all the way over into the left lane while still straddling the right lane. I had to lock them up , I had nowhere to go and didn’t trust he wouldn’t go back right if I went right.

    Probably just woke from a nap and was Foggy

    Glad I was empty and it was not raining like an hour earlier
     
  4. Rooster1291979

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    I think "heavy haul" is an ambiguous term. As most truck drivers pull a box down the road their entire careers they see any large oversized load going down the road and call it heavy haul.

    Sixx mentioned superloads being heavy haul. I mostly agree to that.

    I often haul superloads on 5 axles so I'm not sure all superloads should be considered heavy haul.

    For me, I have always put heavy haul as multi axle with jeeps, stingers, schnaubles and other combos I can't spell.

    Basically a heavy haul requires a doubles and triples endorsement, multiple escorts, route surveys and police escorts through populated areas.
     
  5. idriveaholden

    idriveaholden Super Heavy Hauler

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    do heavy haul guys still float gears or is that big a no no?
     
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  6. Lepton1

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    I haven't done true heavy haul, only up to 110,000 lbs gross. I normally float gears. However, when driving customer trucks on a drive away basis you need to figure out how that particular truck wants to play. I've driven trucks that refused to float. Double clutching was the only way to go. Other trucks had to be clutched out of gear, but had to be floated back into gear.

    The bottom line for whatever weight you pull is can you ease it gently into gear with almost no strain at all on the drive train? It doesn't matter how you get that done in my book. Just be sure to get it into the next gear with no strain at all, then either ease on into the throttle after an upshift or ease on into the Jake's on a downshift.
     
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  7. Bill51

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    So what's the definition?
    Up to 80K is a regular load.
    Over 110K is heavy haul?
    What's the gray area between 80K and 110K? Almost heavy haul? Medium haul? My little pony haul?
    And I thought it was 105,500 that was the cutoff before getting different permits.
    Enlighten me.
     
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  8. Lepton1

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    I think the folks that do heavy haul define it as anything north of 135,000 gross weight.
     
  9. Espressolane

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    The “My little pony” haul, isn’t that what the guys with a dually and gooseneck do.
     
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  10. Lepton1

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