Help with Roehl and trip planning

Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by MP3 > CB, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    hmm, yep, you're getting some unusual treatment. Or maybe things have changed that much in the year I've been gone. You should be getting much more from the company.
     
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  3. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    I kind of have that sinking feeling but it's so comical it relieves a lot of the stress. I just delivered my load and I'm not sending any messages and I have no idea how I'll respond when they eventually want to know what's going on.

    Anyway, you've been great, so I appreciate all your responses, here.

    God's got my attention and I can't go anywhere. I've got a whole day to look for some answers.
     
  4. grinder58

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    I got 10 yrs in Roehl but not working there now. Didn't mean to encourage to eat behind the wheel. Usually I'll have a bar or a sandwich woofed down before I leave a fuel stop. On the the unloading and loading if at all possible end your day at shipper or Cons . that way you can start your day when they have you lded or unlded. So many drivers want to end ther day at a truck stop close to their delivery or p/u and that can be disasterous especially if there is a traffic jam or accident on the way the next morning. Just make sure its okay by callin shippr/cons that its safe to sleep there. Just doing that alone, putting in your mac 12 and hours of service in as soon as you get there helps. Except when your maxing out on total hrs at the end of the week you can show 11 hrs avail on your Mac 12 and that looks good to planners because your already there and no matter what time you get unded/lded you'll have 11 to run.....as soon as you can give em a mac 11 the next morning do it. Most time your day will start after lded/unlded with 11 hrs to run , it makes things easier on you the planners and your dispatcher. as far as the road is concerned try to drive 670 miles a day in 12 12.5 hrs. One thing I forgot if you have a computer and the electronic loggin thing going, I never dealt with that. . On those long trips to Max out on the miles you can do every day really helps. Jackin around doing 550 600 miles a day when you can do 670 might go against you especially if you have truck problems. Get 1200 1800 miles behind you as quick and safe as you can. Gettng a load from point A to point B safely is the main thing. 600 is a good day but if you can do 660 + miles it can help. If your locked into an appt time you might have a lot of time to kill at the end but the trip is in the rearview and thats the main thing. Sounds like you've already got it figured out and sometimes there is nothing you can do and the shippr/cons will gobble up your hrs and make things difficult. sometimes i would split log(not often) if things were to close on the 10 hr rule but that was rare and I would tell my dispatcher ahead of time if I was gonna do that. Another thing I always did is when they sent me a pre pl, I'd send my confirmation , wait 5 minutes and take out even i didn't have all ld info(mainly on long deadheads) . I'd send my dispatcher a messg to send ld info when you can i'm heading out now. I don't how many times it might have caused a service failure if I'd waited on ld info especially on relays because they take sometimes take 30 min sending it to you and thats time waisted. When i got close to shipr town i'd usally have ld info by then and copy it down. Cancellations usally happen within that 5 minute wait and there was only a few times to where I got down the road a little and they would cancel .my dispatcher would quick beep me if there was a change up(very rare).. The main thing is to quit eating and quit taking showers lol !! I felt like I had to run hard because I had a partner to think about runnin 7/7. 14/7 I would think you U'd be in the same boat.........PS. i didn't take off on pre pl info alone at the start of a day that could mess you up ....This is just the way I did it. If you feel like 550 miles a day is all you can do safely then so be it . safety is the main thing
     
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  5. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    Thanks for taking the time to type all that. I just don't know what to think. Safety, safety, safety, oh and, rush, rush, rush....

    You talk about all these miles. 10 trips now, the longest was 750 loaded miles, a couple under 200 miles, and my reward for sitting at this truck stop on Thanksgiving with an APU that blows cold and an idle shut down I can't get to override? A nice, phat, 289 mile trip I get to hand off to somebody else.

    I don't think this is salvageable even though I have no idea which way I'll turn at this point.

    Yeah, I eat while driving plenty, but usually that's a matter of choice. You've got to woof something down at a fuel stop; you have no time to shower en route and you sleep where there is no shower; a service failure because you waited on your load info...

    You have no idea about this electronic logging...

    I'm just bummed, I was trying to move up and it sounds like I'm with the bottom feeder of bottom feeders...
     
  6. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Electronic logging should be easier for you, especially at Roehl. If you were going to run a paper log they'd GPS match it anyways. Kind of like doing the same, except this should help you remove mistakes.

    It gets worse, much, much worse at other places. I'd tell them that you'd like to work with a different management group, fm and fom. If they aren't willing to work with you than you should look to move on.
     
  7. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    Yeah, if they had thought enough about us to show up in orientation and welcome us to the company, I'd follow that lead. I went straight from the training group to the my fleet manager.

    When I got back after my first time out, I wasn't happy. I was getting my things out of my truck (slip seat) and was called in to inventory the new permits. I told her I inventoried the permits already (when I got the truck) and that the next guy could inventory the permits. Some guy sitting in the office inserts himself in the conversation and tells me I "get to" inventory them again. I figured this guy, whoever he was, must be somebody, so I inventoried the permits again.

    This stranger who didn't think enough of me to introduce himself was my fm's boss.

    Now, you talk about management groups. What is that. I go through recruiting, I'm assigned an fm, I stumble across her boss who, while he seemed nice, was just full of baloney and is a big part of the reason I'm sitting in this cold truck on Thanksgiving morning with my coat on (I need to grab a hat, my head is cold).

    Yeah, a little professionalism? A little respect? Some avenue of someone to talk to who isn't trying to "break me" or some young dude who never drove a truck and is just trying to please all the right people so he can keep his job and stay on his management track...

    The more I talk, the deeper the hole gets, I believe. Seriously, I'm not making any of this up. Not the average length of haul, not the pace, not the conversations, not the way I feel sitting in this truck Thanksgiving morning making no money, apart from my family.

    Look, where is this going? I'm coming across like a whiner, right? I just haven't got a plan B right now. Before coming here, I went through 5 days of orientation with Central Transport before finally concluding that wasn't going to work (just read about Central Transport, otherwise, certainly no hard feelings) . So, since leaving Bynum 8 weeks ago, this is my second job. Don't know which way to go ;-)

    Don't pity me too much. House is paid for, car is paid for...there's a path, somewhere...

    Oh yeah, the electronic logs, I was actually looking forward to them. As I indicated before, I've worked under "match tolls and fuel receipts" and "match to Qualcomm", so I've done all this first hand. There is a little wiggle room even under "match to Qualcomm" but with this electronic log, I went back and edited in a pretrip and all hell broke loose. I got a red line on the drive line and no one could figure out why, certainly not the trained safety expert they sent me to. What I had done, I edited down the the 10 hour break to 9 hours and 58 minutes. Took me quite awhile to figure that out.

    So, in this safety conscious company, we've already got the admission that a trainer is teaching his trainee to fudge his line four and drivers are having to grab Fritos on the run to make their delivery times. I guess some of them stink, too. That's safety, eating hot dogs behind the wheel...

    Listen, I know the industry, none of this would be an issue with me and normally I wouldn't call anyone out. Just, in my case, I'm stuck right now, literally, in this cold truck, and I kind of laugh because I really don't care who knows about it... :biggrin_25519:
     
  8. Meltom

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    wow, safety couldn't figure that out? I'm an eLog manager (well the eLog manager) at my company. Figuring out what's going on with eLogs doesn't take a rocket scientist.
     
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  9. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    She explained the 14 hour rule for me, I found out it hasn't changed in 16 years. Then she said, 'oop, this is wrong.' And I looked and I said, 'no, I didn't go over 11 hours.' She gets her pencil and calculator going again, 'oop, this is wrong.' 'No, I didn't exceed the 14, and even if I did, I can work all night long on line four as long as I don't drive.'

    'What? You think you can just work all night long!? You're going to have to talk to your fm about that.'

    'No really, I can, besides, even the final post trip is within in the 14 hours.'

    So then, the fm calls me up and starts chewing on me for "my attitude."

    I was a lieutenant, once. I know what it is to have a little education and training and to be placed in charge of experience people when you scarcely know what is going on. I get it. I've done it It's no fun and I can be sympathetic. But, I tried to clarify this rule with this woman and she got in a huff when I gave up and asked her name so that I could say who I was talking trying to solve this problem.

    Again, no big deal except for the 'you don't know, I'm the expert' attitude and I've still got this red line and I have a load committment and the guard is kicking me out of the parking lot at Aldis and I just need answers, all I needed was an answer.

    Comedy, right?

    I appreciate having you to talk to about this stuff. When I flunked my driving test I told another trainer, 'look, I just want a truck and a load assignment', not trying to get tangled up with personalities. I had no idea the fun had only started. Did you know, you've got to play with that trailer lock a little bit before you can easily get it on and off the door. And when I picked up this Columbia and I've got it in the repair shop because the door doesn't open when you pull on it, even hard...double lock, you have to pull twice, who knew? The head of maintenance punking me easily opening and closing the door over and over and my FM standing right there snickering...
     
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  10. grinder58

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    Yea MP3, Truck driving has it's ups and downs. Sometimes it's just downright abusive, . The only thing that keeps you in the game is the belief that the planners and C/S are doing the best that they can do, and thats hard to do. FMs don't have anything to do with picking loads anymore so things are really different. Some weeks are good and some are bad , and the times we live in the bad weeks maybe may be more common. If you have expectations in trucking your gonna be dissappointed . Pray for the economy to come back... Ron Paul 2012 !!!
     
  11. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    The Alex Jones radio show from noon to three CST on XM 166! The economy isn't coming back, IMO. Could there be a bump? Maybe, but the die was cast in 1913 and through the haze, within the matrix, no one can see the Illuminati staring us in the face right there on their Federal Reserve notes. *cough*

    Hey, I just got a phone call. If I haven't completely shot myself in the foot there may be a glimmer of hope, here. Probably need to shut my mouth at this point. :biggrin_255:
     
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