Here is why the Tesla Semi is NOT a savings

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  1. Lucastookis

    Lucastookis Bobtail Member

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    LoneRanger, that's pretty much how it is for many in the owner operator-own authority world. That's exactly what we do. We buy a new truck, if fortunate enough and purchase all the coverages, the best warranty, the best maintenance plan, and as you guessed it, the warranty expires at either 5 years or 500,000 miles, whichever comes first, and we rinse and repeat. We trade the truck in right around the 500K mark and get a new one. For those who do around 125K driving, they will trade the truck in at the 4 year mark. This is very, very, very common for a huge chunk of O/O's
     
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  3. Lucastookis

    Lucastookis Bobtail Member

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    That's Tesla's own website that quoted this 2 years ago. It was literally Tesla who said the battery pack will need replaced at 500,000 miles. It was literally Tesla who estimated 3 years ago, that driving 100,000 miles per year will cost around 10,000 dollars in electricty. Add inflation and rising energy cost and dead heading 10% (10,000) miles from 3 years ago, and you get to the 12,500 dollar ballbark range for electricty to run the truck.
     
  4. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    Just put on extra electric motor to run PTO. They can probably do that.
     
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    Kenworth6969 Road Train Member

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    All the cascadias I've driven I've never averaged 10 mpg even with am empty trailer and going 60 mph. usually in the 8s with an empty, might hit 9 in perfect condition.
     
  6. Lucastookis

    Lucastookis Bobtail Member

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    Have you driven a 2022 with the full aerodynamics package with on board inverter, with 90 percent cruise control with only 450 horses with proper axle ratio? I drive this truck and have 3 close friends who drive the same one. We got a deal by ordering 4 of them together at the same time with exact same specs. The guy in the Northwest is getting 9.4. The guy in the East, Southeast, and Midwest is getting 9.7, and myself and another guy running primarily the plains are getting 10.0 and 10.1. Again though, key things. The truck pretty much Never idols. I never run the AC. I run 91 percent cruise control, and have absolute complete aerodynamics package. Not just the truck. The trailer, every single way possible that we know how to add aerodynamics to the truck, I've done that.

    The difference in fuel efficiency in the 2019 and 2020 and 2021 and 2022 and 2023 Cascadias are Alarming. Unlike Pete's, Kenny's, and Volvo's that for years and years had very little or tiny fractional improvements in fuel efficiency, the Cascadia and often forgot about, the Mack in 2022 and 2023 models are light-years better in fuel efficiency from literally only 36 months ago (3 years).

    The Mack Anthem will be my next truck. I was 50/50 on getting an Anthem instead of a Cascadia, but the other 3 guys were dead set. Mack, I promise you will see more Anthems in the next 2 years. They've completely done a 180 in the right direction from quality, to fuel efficiency, to looks, to practicality, just a night and day different truck than what is was in 2019 and years past
     
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  7. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Not quite that much, but close. If we assume 30mph & 500hp, that's 100hp-hr or ~75kWh.

    It's worse than 1/3 the efficiency, that merely gets you to the equivalent of a full power diesel truck, and then you have to account for the slower speed while climbing.

    And Tesla is claiming 50 mph on 5% grades? That's serious HP, which means even more kWh. But that and the claimed 20 second 0-60 time do sound appealing, until you consider what that level of power can do to drive tire life.
     
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  8. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    Here is 4 new the Megachargers at Tesla factory. The say 1.5MW to recharge.

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    Recaps will fly away on the first pull))
     
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    goga Heavy Load Member

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    But seriously, I can't comprehend how am I suppose to back into the slot with steering wheel in the middle?:cool:
     
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  11. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    Is that 16 power packs?

    For those not following the Tesla ecosystem, that’s a stationary battery, retails for close to a $100K. EACH.
     
  12. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    Even if the battery pack needs replaced at 500K (the same claim was made for the cars, but the reality is that they are lasting longer) that doesn’t leave the truck with no residual value at that point. There already is a cottage industry popping up replacing Tesla car batteries, and the same will happen with the Semi batteries. It might take as much as $30K (more likely about half that), but that is well worth doing, and not much different from the money to do an in-frame on a Cummings that ate the ceramic fuel pump parts at 500K, twice the replacement of a “one box”, or a number of other big ticket repair and maintenance expenses we face with the diesel trucks.
     
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