hey brokers, has elogs changed business/rates etc?

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  1. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    I've clearly noticed an obvious rate increase over the past couple days.
    The couple brokers I've spoken to said they noticed less available trucks and have been frustrated with late trucks and rescheduling.
     
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  2. nightgunner

    nightgunner Road Train Member

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    Guess that's what happens when you deal with unprofessional rookies.
    And they wonder why my rates are always high...
     
  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Fixed that for you sir.
     
  4. nightgunner

    nightgunner Road Train Member

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    Good catch.
     
  5. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    Are the trucks late? Or are the runs no longer do able as they are too long, too many hours for a legal run?
    I’m sure that is just the new reality for some runs that they got use to everyone fudging the comic book for decades.
     
  6. Gearjammer79

    Gearjammer79 Road Train Member

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    Long runs can be done on elog. Just as long as you can do the speed limit out west. And like buying lots of fuel.
     
  7. PPDCT

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    Honestly, it's hard to say. This is a weird week in general. I have a lot of customers trying to slip freight out at the last minute this week to try and beat Christmas/end of month/end of year- my coworkers are seeing similar. So that's some of it - Christmas is always a tricky time, and the final component (Elogs notwithstanding) of this is that the economic output is still on the rise. The ELD Mandate is certainly driving some of it, but it's hard to say how much of it. Bottom line is there's more freight, competing for fewer trucks on any given lane because a lot of folks are trying to get home, and those few trucks consequently have less ability to fudge the numbers (if they were so inclined) than they would previously. This is a good week to make some coin if you're not trying to get home for Christmas.
     
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  8. TallJoe

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    Many of them load schedules remain oblivious to the fact that ELDs are in effect. I see pick up times and delivery appointments spread 12 - 13 hours apart and 450 - 500 miles to go..... That does not cut.
    Post Paper LOG (PPL - let's make it sound a little scientific LOL) drive time scenario looks like this; you need to roughly figure 3 hours to complete the pick up (getting to shipper + loading time) + 7 - 8 hours drive time to the consignee + 2 hours to offload + 1 hour to find a spot. Too close to go over 14. Unless you know it is going to work as you pretty much know who the shipper/receiver is. It is important to be explicit about who the heck the shipper and consignee is, before even agreeing to the rate. For any distance over 500 miles and the next day delivery, there should be 8 hours allotted for resting (e.i. resetting the d...mn 14 hour clock).
     
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  9. PPDCT

    PPDCT Medium Load Member

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    I can certainly understand why you'd want the shipper/consignee information. However, I'm not going to give it out on a call without an agreement of some sort in place (usually a rate confirmation, unless I know you.) I've had it happen more than once where a carrier tries to call and back-solicit the load before they've gone in to pick it up. I'll give you information about the shipper/consignee, but I'm not interested in making it easy for someone to try and cut me out.
     
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  10. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    I understand. However, from my (ignorant) angle, it seems a little overreacting as the info will have to be disclosed sooner or later and potentially given to a third party, anyway, not bound by the contract addendum. I'm sure you know better, and I respect that, your business do's and dont's. I can only say that your broker world seems very, very competitive, much more than I once thought.
     
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