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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Morteza, May 6, 2020.

  1. Dumdriver

    Dumdriver Road Train Member

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    I know you weren’t. But that term is thrown around quite a bit with the company paid training option.
     
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  3. lovesthedrive

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    Before you make your granduer plans.........
    Call your local licensing agency. Because of the current state of the Covid-19. You may find companies cant hire you as they have no way to license you.
     
  4. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    It's 100% accurate! How many threads do you imagine are on these boards started by drivers facing having to pay back the money? If a carrier pays for the CDL you as a driver MUST work for them, OR find another carrier to assume the contract (if possible). By using that term I am not saying drivers are mistreated any more or less than more experienced drivers. I'm saying you are tied to that carrier until that year is over. Drivers get raises and fulfill those contracts all the time. The thing is they have to do so. Even if you get out of the industry you still have to pay that money back. THAT is what makes it indentured servitude, not how they are treated!
     
  5. Moose1958

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    Just for the record. I have no basic issue with a trucking school. Before my diagnosis of Epilepsy, I was offered jobs by two schools to teach, that I gave serious thoughts about but rejected! I have several friends that are teachers. Gosh, I guess I can name off two or three hundred drivers that finished their year and are happy. My comment was not saying company financed school is bad. It is NOT! I'm saying it's not a good fit for everybody, and I always highly advise someone to check out other options first. It just breaks my heart to see these threads asking about their CDLs because of a default! This is what "indentured servitude" is.
     
  6. Dumdriver

    Dumdriver Road Train Member

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    Ok, we agree that it’s not 100% accurate that all places will mistreat drivers that sign on for company training?

    the term indentured servant implies that. That’s all I was saying.
     
  7. Just passing by

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    Food for thought: in these hard pandemic times wouldn't it be better to be trained by the company and this way have some sort of job security? For at least a year?
     
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  8. FLtoOKBound

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    well nothing says they'd have to keep you. I've seen plenty of threads were drivers were let go during their training stage after CDL school. Like that guy who rolled his truck into the ditch because of his "trainer"
     
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    Well, let's hope those are the exceptions to the rule...
    :rolleyes:
     
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  10. Moose1958

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    This is what the word indentured means!
    "relating to an agreement in which someone works for someone else until they have paid back a debt, especially in the past when poor people worked for someone in another country in return for being taken to that country:"

    It means an agreement to work for somebody to pay a debt. It does not mean the form such an agreement will be worked under.

    Websters defines Servitude two ways.
    1.a condition in which one lacks liberty especially to determine one's course of action or way of life.
    2.a right by which something (such as a piece of land) owned by one person is subject to a specified use or enjoyment by another

    So an indentured servant is someone with NO liberty to move to another place. Common sense should prevail when it comes to other things. No human has the right to own another. In the case of a person that has promised to work for a year in return for payment (of really most anything) has to fulfill the terms of that agreement. If that agreement is legal, and ALL of these agreements are just that LEGAL. This is why the phrase "indentured servitude" is 100% correct. The only way to satisfy the agreement is to work it off.

    That term "indentured servitude" also needs to be stressed to every person looking into this. You are telling a carrier you will drive for them for a year. These debts can NOT be discharged in bankruptcy and at some point, a driver will face garnishment OR any other collections a court may direct.
     
  11. Dumdriver

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    <sigh> this is what Wikipedia says about indentured servitude : “An indentured servant or indentured laborer is an employee within a system of unfree labor who is bound by a signed or forced contract to work without pay for the owner of the indenture for a period of time. The contract often lets the employer sell the service of the worker to a 3rd party”

    that’s my point. You’re NOT forced to work without pay. In fact you’ll be paid for your performance. Perform well, you’ll be paid well. That’s it. That’s all I got for ya. I don’t have the time, nor the energy and ESPECIALLY the desire to go back and forth over semantics.

    feel free to have the last word.
     
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