Hey, question about dump trucks

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  1. 201

    201 Road Train Member

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    I've been around dump trucks since the Byzantine era, recently, I noticed newer dump trucks have the ram upside down ( to me) The bigger tube that the little tubes come out of, is at the top. Anybody know why they do that now?
     
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  3. Caterpillar Cowboy

    Caterpillar Cowboy Heavy Load Member

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    Different strokes for different folks. I want to say my newest dump body is about 3, maybe 4 years old and it's in the standard configuration. I might have heard people say that the ram is easier to bleed inverted, also some other reasons people have told me they like that style but I honestly can't remember what they were. I've never had an issue with any of mine the normal style so I have never worried too much about it.
     
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  4. SmallPackage

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    Some guys say it helps keep crud from hitting and building up on the cylinder seals when they are upside down. Makes since in really dirty environments.
     
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    201 Road Train Member

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    Thanks, IDK, you have any idea how many times I ran a hoist on a dump truck in the standard configuration?. They all leaked like a sieve anyway, inverted, I'd think it would be worse, plus, you have that big heavy portion of the ram at the top. I'd think that would help it "go over". I just laughed at that, thinking, we did t'other way 'round for 100 years,,,:dontknow:
     
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  6. SmallPackage

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    True. Not to mention it’s gotta have a few more gallons of oil and a mile more of line to get it to the top don’t it?
     
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  7. spsauerland

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    The hydraulic inlet is still on bottom of inverted style. Many hoist cylinders have gone from pin mount to trunnion mount. Gives more flexibility in design and doesn't require such a stout hoist tower area. Many rams are changing finish from chrome to salt bath nitriding.
     
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  9. 201

    201 Road Train Member

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    Thanks, to me, however it sounds like a ploy to sell more dump trailers. I can hear it now, "dang, these dump trailers are lasting too long, we need to do something". Voice from the back, " um boss, why don't we invert the ram, that should make them go over easier",,,"That's brilliant,,son, there will be a new level on your house when you get home",, see, that's how I think, and I'm usually not that far off.
     
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    Here is picture of a trunnion mount set up that is becoming commonplace. This hoist is "traditional" in that largest stage is @ bottom. Screenshot_20200621-105606.png
     
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  11. Shawn2130

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    All of our dump trucks use trunnion mounts except maybe one. I’d have to look again.

    Our end dump trailer that I always use is pin mount.

    Each cylinder stages are black finish which I thought was anodized instead of chrome.

    If the cylinder was inverted, oil enters the small stage shaft, wouldn’t that make it weaker?
     
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