high iron in oil sample

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  1. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    42 ppm on iron 8 ppm on lead. still fighting coolant leak into oil, that I thought I had licked. from report lead is from bearings, iron from steel parts. potassuim is at 76 & sodium at 38 got 2000 miles on new oil, report from last sample which had 11,000 miles on it. advice on should I try another 10,000 miles & have it checked, keep an eye on things, or take it in & take it apart now ?
     
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  3. Ristow

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    You need to find and fix the coolant leak. Very bad on the motor .
     
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    And I would take valve cover off and look at all the valve train parts closely. That's all iron up there.
     
  5. mnmover

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    what is the viscosity number, add some lucas for now, the sodium and potassium is antifreeze, what engine? could be oil cooler? also could be air compressor wearing out.
     
  6. Ristow

    Ristow Road Train Member

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    He has a 60 series.
     
  7. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    the coolant leak is so small, the pressure test could not locate it. getting no sign of it other than oil sample. oil pressure good, no milky yellow stuff on oil cap or on blow by tube at bottom of tube. had a coolant leak long time ago & the milky stuff was present in 3 places, not this time. put new compressor on, after new one put on the pottasium & sodium dropped quite a bit, then the next 2 oil changes back up, along with the iron & lead.

    shop man told me something about the pressure difference in oil & coolant that would likely rule out oil cooler?? think he said if oil cooler was bad it would put oil in the coolant, I think 11.1 ser 60 ddec3
     
  8. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    He is correct. I've had oil cooler go south. It puts oil in the coolant, a very noticeable amount. It will start to blow out on your engine as well from around the turbo area when the oil cooler goes.

    Do you have an EGR cooler? You might have tiny crack in a head gasket as well.
     
  9. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    no e.g.r. 95' ddec3
     
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  10. simon999

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    If your oil cooler would be bad, you would see some oil in coolant reservour. But if there coolant in the oil-thats internal engine problem. Your sample shows about 76ppm potassium(if you have more than 50ppm in sample you risk to ger corrosion on engine components). You getting lead because coolant makes corrosion engine bearing surfaces(mains, rods, cam bushings). I would take the valve cover off and check if there is no green/white sludge on it. You would need to pressure test coolant and leave overnight(drop pan and look where it leaks). Also 42ppm of iron is high on 11k mile change. It should be about 10ppm. I would inspect main bearings. How many miles you have on the engine?
     
  11. heavyhaulerss

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    I'LL have to look when I get home, but I think about 600,000 on inframe. 1.9 mil total miles.
     
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