HOLY PTO!!!

Discussion in 'Wal-Mart' started by BackIsSore, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. TomOfTx

    TomOfTx Road Train Member

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    A driver of a week on/week off program (or other similar program) who hypothetically were to work 1776 hours for the year, who is earning 1 day PTO per 100 hours worked, would only earn 17.76 days plus up to 4 safety days, which is only a total of 21-22 days PTO for the year, not 30.

    The new PTO program would give more paid time off to drivers on these 5/5, 6/6, 7/7 or 3/2 programs, considering they do not currently accrue paid vacation time at all. I had a chance a few months ago to sign up for a 5 on/5 off program, but the loss of accrued vacation time swayed my decision. Under the new PTO program, I would likely move to a 5 on/5 off program.
     
  2. teversole1

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    I've been working at Walmart since May of last year. I haven't earned any vacation or personal days yet. I may have earned some sick time. I'm not entirely sure. I think earning 21 PTO days off with only one year of employment would be a good thing for me. Since they are doing away with deferred holidays, are we still going to get holiday pay?
     
  3. jfred74

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    Ok, I see where my math was wrong, but full time guys only get a potential 7-8 days more of PTO than someone on a week on/off? That's going to cause problems among the ranks. Might be their way of getting rid of those programs in the future.
     
  4. drozzer69

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    Wouldn't weekon/weekoff be considered part time? Part time PTO is different from full time PTO hours accrued.
     
  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Wife currently gets 3 weeks vacation, sick time, personal time, paid holidays, etc. With this new PTO deal, her paid time off will essentially be cut in half. Not only that, but the sick time she currently has that will be placed into that "separate account" can only be used to care for family...NOT for herself. Couple that with forcing short term disability to be used for leave when having a baby...and capping that at $200/week for 5 weeks...before allowing her to use the rest of her banked PTO is utter crap.

    This new policy might work out well for folks who just started...but she's approaching 10 years. Long term employees are being bent over and not in the fun way.
     
  6. Aaabbbccc

    Aaabbbccc Light Load Member

    Any California drivers here? They have take take two 30 minutes breaks per day instead of one like the rest of the country. So, if we both work 70 hours, I get credit for 67.5 ( 70 hours minus 5 1/2 HR breaks where I have to be off duty) while they only get 65 , 70 -5=65 hrs credit. Fair?
     
  7. jfred74

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    For the hourly associates yes, but the meetings we had it sounded like all truck drivers were lumped into one category regardless of what program they are on. We have several 7/7 and one 4/4 up here. 2 years ago our GTM mentioned something about eliminating 7/7 and changing it to more 4/4 or 5/5. 7/7 isnt efficient and cost effective anymore because of HOS. Maybe they are looking at eliminating the week on/off and it's variations of the program down the road? It's expensive to insure an employee who only works half of the year. As always it comes down to money. We may not like it, but it's a smart business move which is why Walmart is so successful.
     
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    Reason for edit: Addendum
  8. Aaabbbccc

    Aaabbbccc Light Load Member

    "We may not like it, but it's a good business move which is why Walmart is so successful."

    And right now, an accountant in a back cubicle in Bentonville is thinking..... Hmm, private fleet 99% LOS. Swift 92% LOS. For the cost savings, we can live with that.
     
  9. jfred74

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    Like I said, it's all about $$$ and numbers.
     
  10. TomOfTx

    TomOfTx Road Train Member

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    A few years ago I may have agreed with you. Today, with the amount of serious competition Walmart faces in the grocery and online shopping business segments, they are investing more money to improve the overall shopping experience. I do not have the exact dollar figures, but I have heard from some managers that the private fleet is more cost effective than using an outside carrier, as well as more efficient, safer, and a higher LOS. A lot of money is saved on the backhauls we make too.
     
    BackIsSore and noninetofive Thank this.
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