Homemade hi-flow air filter ideas???

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by flc120, Sep 8, 2012.

  1. bubbanbrenda

    bubbanbrenda Road Train Member

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    I'm trying to be nice here if he runs 90% hwy they should last a day or 2 in my world an hour or two.
     
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  3. flc120

    flc120 Heavy Load Member

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    i see what you say in regards to surface area but rememeber there are 2 of them also this filter in dimensions is what is sold comparable to the panels filters made for the newer f-600 to 750 trucks which are medium duty applications but still diesel and still draw a pretty good amount of cfm. I use this example to show that the filter doesnt need to be conical as newer applications bring panel type air filters on MD diesel engines, to add they only have one box underthe hood and work just as well with a whole lot smaller intake diameter tubing i dont see how this filter wont work without having to be cleaned for at least 1-2 month intervals whcih to me is fine cux it will keep from choking up the engine and keep fuel waste down as well.

    I also choose this smaller filter instead of a conical large type filter like what comes in housing from factory cuz this filter 12" x 12" that it is i can pull out clean, let it dry for about an hour in this FL: heat and throw it back in as to the larger type filter would need to sit out at least the whole day before it could even dry (NO GOOD).

    I will keep a timeline pulling filters out to check it ever so often and taking pictures as of now worked it 2 days in one of the dustiest dirtiest cities in South FLorida anyone can attest to MEDLEY and shes been whistling and pulling just like she did when i took her to work yesterday. I can tell you one thing i dont have to wait for boost anymore lol...
     
  4. flc120

    flc120 Heavy Load Member

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    i like to add i also work 100% local which is a mix of highway and city, 8 hours if not more a day in traffic,rain,humidity,vapor and heat ;)

    but i like the constructive critisism it will help to prove my idea will work and you dont need no custom $150 each filter to make it happen nor have to wait 2 days for it to DRY after washed. I say this mainly cuz it takes a conical car filter almost a day to dry a normal panel air filter will normally dry during the day within a couple hours.


    And if your still skeptical use this idea, then get your old paper element cut a hole were this filter would sit and suck in thru and reinstall your old air filter with the k&n installed it would be for a little more peace of mind , but after she started pulling like this i wont go back to no paper element again. Its like i can control the speed,tone and sound of the turbo so responsive from idle almost as if my old b model was a E model overhead cam engine real hard to explain alot more then just seat of the pants gain here guys.
     
  5. T800H

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    flc 120, you are talking about a filter that's used on a F650 to F750 those trucks usually run Cummins 5.9, your truck has almost 15 litres and your truck works non stop all day, I'm not bashing you here, but your motor is now inhaling a lot of dust that will end up in the oil and carried all over the engine internals, good luck to you.

    but I will never do that to my motor.
     
  6. flc120

    flc120 Heavy Load Member

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    to each his own idea....and opinion. I have a bunch of ####### rolling around miami with blue house ac filter mesh installed in there stock filter setup and these dudes i know that are doing it run 10hours a day non stop engine never turned off in them 10hours and im not hyping them but one of these guys is my friend and i know for a fact 100% SURE that he hasnt washed or even thought to pull out his blue ac house filter idea to even check it and the truck is still running no turbo or oil issues and still boosting with no negative affects to this date and hes probably been running them like that for about 5 months now, i know that the filter im using isnt even letting thru half the particles those house ac filters are letting in .

    Now im not saying that its right to run a ac house filter on your engine but i know people who have and havent been pulling them to clean or check and are still working to this date, all i wanted to do with my idea is take a filter which is made for vehicle purposes weather gas or diesel the element K&N uses is similiar to any other wasahble filter and make a cheaper more practical investment then burning $150 + for a washable commercial air filter that in the end takes alot longer to wash and dry then the filter element that im using in my idea. Pulled filter hat off housing and she looks as clean as she didd when i installed it, raised it up to the sun and still see the light shining thru it so its not clogged yet. lol....


    what it comes down to is the amount of CFM the engine is drawing into it, i might be alittle thin on the thickness of my filter at 1" i wish i could use the same 12"x12" panel filter but maybe 2-3" thick so that it can have a denser filter to filter thru which would just leave me to service it even less then what i would be doing now. I will keep refining my idea in search of a wee larger filter and if not i will try to purchase the actual wire mesh filter elemnt k&n uses to fabricate my own custom filter then ditching the need to use a certain applicatrion filter to do so.

    Not only is it working, its going to continue working and as with all my posts you will get picture updates when need be. All i need is for you guys to start asking me for engine oil analysis results then, im not telling anyone to do this or promoting it, but what i will be doing is showing youthat you dont always have to pay someone or something in order to have something done, a little ingenuity can go along way, for this i try everything myself and take no ones word for it unless i have seen it for myself..... ;)

    p.s. i dont need to worry about warranty that was gone along time ago on my truck back in 87' LOL
     
  7. flc120

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    Also t800h, there are plenty of medium duty trucks (which come with panel type air filters) speced with cummins m11 and c10 engines which are more then 10L engines as well as 3126 not all of them have 5.9 cummins in them snap even newer setups are coming with the ISB cummins as well.
     
  8. flc120

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    i love the way my turbo whistles...
     
  9. flc120

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    thanks for the added info im glad the techinical aspect was addressed, i understand that my idea is inferior to what can and is produced thats for sure, just to be clear to people reading my topic and you the filter where it sits and around it has a 1/2" crushed piece of black adhesive thick insulation which is air tight sealed from all around filter so the filter is sealed around its complete area just doesnt look to be as the material is crushed so tight against air filter can but its there, i thought it out before idea as i knew i would need to make it air tight to keep a good seal or else the filter wouldnt do anything. By the time it gets to the cylinder it blow out and burn out back thru exhaust so unless i suck in a 3/8" bolt i dont see the connection how will it get to the oil pan before being disintegrated by the fire just saying.

    As for the oil analysis kit i will take you up on it being that this old truck is nothing special and has had so many different type oil changes, filters , intervals from before me it could be good or bad were talking about a 27year old original b model cat in this thing which might have been inframed 2 maybe even 3 times in its life i wouldnt know. i understand how diesel can contaminate oil due to washing down the cylinders and draining back down thru to oil but how do particales of stuff get into oil from the intake path???? Am i missing something here the auto world doesnt offfer? i could lead to believe that an improper filtered vehicle would #1 cause damage to turbo impeller or turbo itself or #2 clog the air to air with nothing but dirt and soot other then that i dont see how else it would harm the engine other then completly clogging the panel filter and getting crappy MPG cause the truck will still run and drive without a doubt.

    Also i would like to add my fuel mileage locally and city seems to be up a little more, but it gets used alot quicker since i always have my foot in it lol.. but seriously i havent seen any adverse affects of running them will be a months time soon with them on.

    but bud i will defintely like to get a oil anyalisis as ive never done one just to see what comes back.
     
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