Hopper, Dump O/O's & Drivers

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by wheathauler, May 31, 2009.

  1. wheathauler

    wheathauler Trucker

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    It's normal for you to get irritated when you are underbid. I'm with you I don't cut rates either! It's a vicious circle ,rate cutting, it never seems to end.

    Many farmers around here have semi's and some lease their trucks out to grain outfits after harvest. I'm not saying they cut rates but it contributes to the oversupply of trucks. I'm thinking some might have gotten their own authority by the amount of new truck names I saw this fall harvest.
     
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  3. dairyman

    dairyman <b> Hopper Thread Greeter</b>

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    thanks,cowdoc. we like it here pretty good too.dad moved down here from carrolton,ky. but mom and her 9 other bro. and sisters have lived here all their life.they say if you dont like the weather in central ky.,just wait till tomorrow,it'll change:yes2557:. were about 7 miles north of stanford on US27.
     
  4. dairyman

    dairyman <b> Hopper Thread Greeter</b>

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    RickG,..say you hauled for Moorman,dad sold feed for them for a while,when he first moved here.if you hauled DDG to Burkmann in d-ville you know bout that pit then:biggrin_25525:. first time i went in there the guy at the mill said ''just pull her over the pit and we'll get ya unloaded'',i remember looking all around and saying ''you mean that groundhog hole with the crate over it?'':biggrin_2559:. but seriously,Burkmann has been really good to me,they get me home with a good load from your part of the country a lot of times. nice to here from ya,i also agree with your quote from 2Timothy.
     
  5. dairyman

    dairyman <b> Hopper Thread Greeter</b>

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    yeah wheathauler,thanks for understanding. i don't want to be fussy,and i don't have a problem with a little healthy competition and i know folks have to pay the bills,i just think that whenever folks start cutti'n rates,they are just De-valueing there own product or service.and when it comes to service, i havent started doing a worse job than when i started. But thats just my opinion,i promise not to whine anymore,but i do agree with ya,its a vicious circle though. i am VERY THANKFULL FOR GOD'S BLESSING IN MY LIFE!
     
  6. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Yeah , fortunately I never unloaded at Burkmann when it was raining . Running hopper bottom didn't pay much but you dealt with good people .
     
  7. wheathauler

    wheathauler Trucker

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    Dairyman hang in there. I think if we can survive next year we may be all right. Course my crystal ball didn't think this year would be so bad.
     
  8. dairyman

    dairyman <b> Hopper Thread Greeter</b>

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    i'm here for the long haul,wheathauler. i love hauling grain and feed,my o'l truck and trailer are paid for,and like RickG said,i get to work with a lot of good folks.
     
  9. stepnfetchit

    stepnfetchit Medium Load Member

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    I guess it doesn't make any difference what kind of trailer you have these days. In 2008 I had what I considered a good deal hauling from Mo to Tx and New Mexico back to Mo. Had good rates both ways with a reefer. In January 08 some brokers literally took the loads away by paying 1/3 less than I was getting. I used to think that reefer's and hopper's were probably the two most stable loads you could haul. After reading these posts I wonder what this is coming to. Rates are like fsc's. Companies are slooow to raise but quick to drop. Seems like freight is the same. Despite the price of fuel it seems these rates are stuck in the 1980's. I have a friend who pulls a hopper and he is fighting these rate cuts here to. The cuts are not really from other hopper companies or O/O but from the broker's. He said that for the first time he is actually competing with brokers for loads now. Wheathauler,Dairyman are you guys facing declining rates from other drivers or from brokers?
     
  10. wheathauler

    wheathauler Trucker

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    I would say drivers. The grain marketers call you and tell what a certain haul pays. Recently they had been lowballing rates but some of these dummies will haul it for that. I've had grain brokers say they won't raise the rates because drivers are hauling it for these low rates. Before harvest the rate for some was $1 a mile.

    The grain people and brokers know who will haul it cheap. I haven't even been called on some hauls because they call the cheap ones first. In a emergency they will call me. However your friend is right that many brokers get loads from the grain marketers. I once called a broker about a load, then called my grain company dispatcher. The broker was taking quite a bit off the load.
     
  11. stepnfetchit

    stepnfetchit Medium Load Member

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    I'm just curious but do any of you grain haulers know if Midwest Ingredients is still in business. The guy I used to drive for did quite a bit of business with them and I just wondered.
     
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