It's normal for you to get irritated when you are underbid. I'm with you I don't cut rates either! It's a vicious circle ,rate cutting, it never seems to end.
Many farmers around here have semi's and some lease their trucks out to grain outfits after harvest. I'm not saying they cut rates but it contributes to the oversupply of trucks. I'm thinking some might have gotten their own authority by the amount of new truck names I saw this fall harvest.
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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by wheathauler, May 31, 2009.
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. were about 7 miles north of stanford on US27.
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. first time i went in there the guy at the mill said ''just pull her over the pit and we'll get ya unloaded'',i remember looking all around and saying ''you mean that groundhog hole with the crate over it?''
. but seriously,Burkmann has been really good to me,they get me home with a good load from your part of the country a lot of times. nice to here from ya,i also agree with your quote from 2Timothy.
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Dairyman hang in there. I think if we can survive next year we may be all right. Course my crystal ball didn't think this year would be so bad.
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I guess it doesn't make any difference what kind of trailer you have these days. In 2008 I had what I considered a good deal hauling from Mo to Tx and New Mexico back to Mo. Had good rates both ways with a reefer. In January 08 some brokers literally took the loads away by paying 1/3 less than I was getting. I used to think that reefer's and hopper's were probably the two most stable loads you could haul. After reading these posts I wonder what this is coming to. Rates are like fsc's. Companies are slooow to raise but quick to drop. Seems like freight is the same. Despite the price of fuel it seems these rates are stuck in the 1980's. I have a friend who pulls a hopper and he is fighting these rate cuts here to. The cuts are not really from other hopper companies or O/O but from the broker's. He said that for the first time he is actually competing with brokers for loads now. Wheathauler,Dairyman are you guys facing declining rates from other drivers or from brokers?
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I would say drivers. The grain marketers call you and tell what a certain haul pays. Recently they had been lowballing rates but some of these dummies will haul it for that. I've had grain brokers say they won't raise the rates because drivers are hauling it for these low rates. Before harvest the rate for some was $1 a mile.
The grain people and brokers know who will haul it cheap. I haven't even been called on some hauls because they call the cheap ones first. In a emergency they will call me. However your friend is right that many brokers get loads from the grain marketers. I once called a broker about a load, then called my grain company dispatcher. The broker was taking quite a bit off the load. -
I'm just curious but do any of you grain haulers know if Midwest Ingredients is still in business. The guy I used to drive for did quite a bit of business with them and I just wondered.
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