HOS Compliance

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by landy77, Jul 4, 2011.

  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

    10,198
    21,669
    Sep 10, 2010
    Flint, MI
    0
    Umm, not legally you cannot

    -Steven
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. ronin

    ronin Road Train Member

    2,928
    1,709
    Jul 22, 2008
    San Antonio, Texas
    0
    Well, yes, you can. There's no details in the off duty driving portion of 395 that states you have to be bobtail... only UNLADEN.
     
  4. dave26027

    dave26027 Road Train Member

    1,284
    801
    Sep 10, 2009
    Dallas, Texas
    0
    When you gain experience and can guess when a shipper will load slowly, you can start a sleeper break while loading. If you have an EOBR, it tells you accurately how much time is left after a SSB break (2 or 8 hour). Sometimes a sleeper berth break helps, sometimes it doesn't. If you have an OBR, some companies set them to show you driving or on duty not driving as soon as you push in the tractor brake and pull out of the dock. If you can't show 8 hours in the bunk, you're screwed. If you show less than 8, your window runs out 14 hours after it started. If you're still in the sleeper at 8 hours and they don't want you out of the dock yet, try to make another 2 hours off duty for a 10 hr break.

    If you have an OBR, you can't fudge a 14 hour violation- it will show you driving away. Some of them have a mile or two where it doesn't automatically change you to the drive line, some don't.

    Don't get caught driving when you're not supposed to be with paper logs, just park at the shipper somewhere. If you meet a Police Person, tell them that if they will just give you permission, you'll go down the street to the truckstop. (They won't). If they ever do, note the Officer's name and that he directed you to leave. It doesn't mean anything but it looks really cool written in your logbook.

    Clear as mud?
     
  5. American-Trucker

    American-Trucker Road Train Member

    10,371
    5,083
    Nov 8, 2009
    Charlotte, North Carolina
    0
    this is easy! Get a pen a ruler and a log book....and MAKE IT LEGAL!




    American Trucker
     
    123456 Thanks this.
  6. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

    1,478
    469
    Feb 13, 2011
    Wherever I park
    0
    Yes, you can. Company policy may dictate otherwise.
     
  7. Crash935

    Crash935 Medium Load Member

    329
    161
    Sep 8, 2007
    Wyoming Mi
    0
    Still cant just drive around because your empty. You can not use the personal conveyance" rule to seek a safe haven after being released from a shipper.
     
  8. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

    1,478
    469
    Feb 13, 2011
    Wherever I park
    0
    LOL, off duty is off duty. The FMCSA has no guidelines of what you can and cannot do when off duty. Your truck is not a prison. And if you're empty, then you got released from a reciever, not a shipper.

    Also, quit twisting what I say. You're making yourself look foolish.
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2011
  9. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

    10,555
    5,738
    Oct 22, 2010
    32179
    0
    Honestly,

    this is one of the gray areas of logging.

    Do what you must do.

    Just don't violate the 14 hour rule !!!!!!
     
  10. ronin

    ronin Road Train Member

    2,928
    1,709
    Jul 22, 2008
    San Antonio, Texas
    0
    There's another driver making up his own rules, after he interpreted it, or he heard it in a truckstop. Personal conveyance is personal conveyance. Drive home. Go to Walmart. Enjoy.

    Shippers have nothing to do with whether you drive your truck "unladen".
     
    THBatMan8 Thanks this.
  11. Raiderfanatic

    Raiderfanatic Heavy Load Member

    814
    560
    Jul 18, 2010
    Hutchinson, KS
    0
    A buddy of mine was out of hours in Topeka, at the Del Monte plant. He told the guy in receiving and was informed that we cannot make you break the law. Just find a spot and take your break.

    The security guard came up and told him he had to leave. No parking allowed. Bryan told the guard he can't move or he'd be breaking the law. The guard insisted so B told him to go talk to the man in the receiving. The guard came back a bit later and apologized. Said that they are not allowed to make truckers leave if it is going to make them in violation of DOT laws.

    You would think all places would have to be this way.
     
    scottied67 Thanks this.
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  • Draft saved Draft deleted