HOS question-Is there a Maximum time allowed in sleeper?

i'm with you. sleeper if i'm not home. off duty if i am home.

1 and 2 are basically OFF DUTY times. are they not????
but you can't really claim off duty if you are loaded and away from home. becuase you are responsible for that load untill it comes off.

times have apparently changed in the 10 years i was off the road. some of the rules are just downright ignorant and stupid.

the guv wants to know where i'm at. FINE. but don't think i'm gonna tell them when i'm sleeping. peeing, eating or showering. i'm parked for 34 hours and what i do with THERE precious break time is none of there DAYUMM BUSINESS. and if i don't want to sleep in a motel. TO BAD. SO SAD.

 

butg the vehicle is MOVING. meaning he's DRIVING.

so now i'm supposed to log personal conveyance when i take my truck in for a oil change while doing my 34 AT HOJME.

 

What do you mean, NOW? That has been the reg longer than I have been out here, which is longer than you have been.

 

does a 5 gallon bucket with a lid count as bodily waste disposal
the lawrence mass county jail in 1982 that was all they had

 

It certainly could be. Almost as good as the old chamber pots we had at home, when I was young. A chamber pot was a heck of a lot better than a trip out to the two-holer, in the back yard, on a cold, windy, snowing night.

 

You have to log 10 hours in the sleeper. Anything after that is off duty. The officer is correct on how to log it but I do not believe there is anything illegal about logging it the other way. It is just wrong. The 34 hour reset time is off duty time. You reset after being off duty for 34 hours.

 

Sleeper time counts the same as off-duty, it's just spent in the sleeper. BTW, there is no regulation stating you MUST log 10 hours in the sleeper. The only 2 times stated, that MUST be logged in the sleeper is the 8 hours, when using the split sleeper provision and when a co-driver is getting their break, while the truck is in motion.

 

i wouldn't know. i was a company man. and yard was 2 miles away. i never had to worry about the truck unless it broke down somewhere in the country. LOL.

 

Line 2 is OFF DUTY in the sleeper berth, line 1 is OFF DUTY everywhere else.

For your 34 hour restart you just have to stay above line 3 for 34 consecutive hours. You can go back and forth between lines 1 and 2 as many times as you wish.

 

So if I'm understanding this correctly... I'm taking my 10, parked outside a T/S, I'm in the sleeper, I'm logged as such, and sleep for 6 hrs. I wake up need to take a dump. So I go into the T/S, use the bathroom, go directly back to my sleeper. You all are saying that in the middle of my 10, I need to change from sleeper to off-duty, for something that takes less than 15 mins?

Now this is where I get confused. In order to log off-duty, I thought that I must be relieved of all responsibility for the load, the truck, ect... If I'm loaded how can I legally log off-duty? Wouldn't that be a false log entry?

If I'm not loaded, but am under dispatch, meaning I'm enroute to be loaded, but I must take a 10 somewhere, I think this would also prohibit logging off-duty.

I guess if DOT man wants to come babysit my truck, or better yet setup a camera to watch so I don't go climbing out of my sleeper, he can expect that nanny-state camera to go on the blitz real fast. Or at the very least, the video will be nothing but a bunch of white, from the 1 mil+ candle power light shining directly into it.

Basically what I'm saying is I don't expect them to go to the extreme to be able to prove their case on this. If they do start this kind of crap, well I guess we gotta do what we gotta do.

I agree with the previous post(s) about loose-lips. If they ask about a log entry, you're answer should match that entry... ie; "Yep I was in the sleeper". Do you really think they're able to prove otherwise? If they persist, I would ask where they were during that time period, parked in front of my truck?