HOS Question?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Exit310, Jan 26, 2017.

  1. warrocgman

    warrocgman Light Load Member

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    Oh yeah my logs dont come close to matching my time card. That wht i run a log daily cause i wanna be able to show my time. We didnt run logs last summer when we would work 70+ hours a week. That hurdle has yet to be gotten to. Just banking some money. I am gong to run on my own authority someday, sooner than later. Might be sooner than i want if the audit comes soon.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Actually they are only required for the day one does not meet the short haul exemption. So the guy who keeps saying a month is either full of it or his drivers are.

    From https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/part/395
    Question 21: When a driver fails to meet the provisions of the 100 air-mile radius exemption (section 395.1(e)), is the driver required to have copies of his/her records of duty status for the previous seven days? Must the driver prepare daily records of duty status for the next seven days?

    Guidance:

    The driver must only have in his/her possession a record of duty status for the day he/she does not qualify for the exemption. A driver must begin to prepare the record of duty status for the day immediately after he/she becomes aware that the terms of the exemption cannot be met The record of duty status must cover the entire day, even if the driver has to record retroactively changes in status that occurred between the time that the driver reported for duty and the time in which he/she no longer qualified for the 100 air-mile radius exemption. This is the only way to ensure that a driver does not claim the right to drive 10 hours after leaving his/her exempt status, in addition to the hours already driven under the 100 air-mile exemption.
     
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  4. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    legally you have to report all hours, but I would never bring up the second job.
    As far as logbooks, make sure it matches any documentation you have with you, thats where Ill leave that.
     
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  5. warrocgman

    warrocgman Light Load Member

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    We work longer than the local limit allows. You arent getting what im saying. The only fit is the 70 hour 8 day rule and we break it often. The rules dont matter if the company cant function with out breaking the rules.Thats why i say cover your a@#. t doesnt matter what the reg says when the DMV pulls you. They can do what they want, especialy if the cant go digging electronically. You dont understand the fact that they have no clue what they are. Hence I said i will run a log book no matter cause it my CDL. Ya'll should say good job covering your a@# instead of throwing out regulations that the DMV may or may not abide by. Talk to the scale house on the Ga SC line. They pull us in there every week and violate someone who doesnt have his log book. Im the only one that hasnt gotten a ticket for it. My point is they are coming for an audit because we arent really a trucking company, but we are acting like one lol. geez. We all know what the reg says. Paper and real life are 2 different things,
     
  6. misterG

    misterG Road Train Member

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    They are REQUIRED to enforce the same regulations we are telling you about. They can't just decide to enforce something a Mosquito asked them to. We are saying that you are only REQUIRED to carry a certain amount of documentation.
    They can't enforce what you aren't required to carry. They can ask for a months worth, but you are not required to have it.

    You are in a tough spot. You're employer isn't a trucking company, but acts like one. You have to follow the same rules we all do, but I suspect your boss doesn't know or care much about that. SO, you get little if any training on them.
    You may be correct. The Feds may be on the way to Audit your employer, and are building a case.
    Maybe not, though.
     
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