HOS VS Brains

As said, if everybody drove with responsibility, and didn't drive tired regardless if they had the time on their logs to do it, there wouldn't be as bad of a watchful eye upon us. Granted, having that responsibility that you claim to have, doesn't give you the right to cheat on your logs just to make extra money.

Hell, who knows, maybe the government doesn't like having to impose these stricter laws on the honest and responsible drivers but there's no way to make a set of laws unique to each and every driver on the road.

By the way, the idiot(idjit) comment was directed at the people that you can blame for these new laws in the first place..... The driver that rag318, or whatever his screen name is, that he was referring to is who the "idjits" are.

I wasn't saying to bow down, but what are you gonna do, park your truck for a while and storm the white house? Good luck with that.

 

Actually, very few carriers have electronic logs (ELOGS). Some did put them in due to the expected forced installation by the feds. Those who did install them are a very small percentage of the carriers on the highway. Most drivers are paid what they are worth if they are paid based upon performance (mileage or percentage). It is up to the driver to decide whether they are rested enough to drive.

I am a proponent of eliminating the hos rules. I understand that there would be some who would push longer and harder than they should if the hos were eliminated, but that happens with the current hos. You won't eliminate that no matter what you do with the hos. I don't see my business changing much if the hos were totally eliminated. I rest when tired and drive when needed. I have always encouraged my drivers to do the same thing.

We still have those who violate the hos rules and are stuck with stiff fines. About the only change that I see if the hos were eliminated would be that state and federal fines would be eliminated and government revenues would go down. When drivers are caught and put out for hos violations it is often for not having the previous 7 days or minor errors on their logs rather than blatant violations. I would like to see a test study to see if I am right about the safety issue if the hos were eliminated. I would be surprised if there would be a dramatic increase in accidents involving trucks if the hos were eliminated. If those who support the hos think that they can prove their case, then let us put a study together and see who is right. Better yet, it should be done by an independent group rather than some who have a vested interest in keeping the hos in place. It does keep a lot of bureaucrats and lawyers in business.

 

No I don't need the government to tell me when to sleep; however, I do need the government to ensure my company doesn't force me to run when I am tired..

I do believe there is a compromise here someplace.

 

Im curious as to where you got busted, what raised the red flag and how much these fines are. Please share.

 

I don't know of any other job where employees feel that they need the government to come in and speak for them. When someone works for a retailer or manufacturer and they are tired they just tell their employer that they are tired and need to go home and rest if they don't want to work over their shift. But, for some reason, some drivers don't feel that they can speak up for themselves.

 

Because it's much easier that way, alot of drivers out here now are so dumb they can't find their ### with both hands, so is it really that much of a surprise that they need their hand held and have to be told everything they can and can't do??

 

thanks for this post/thread i totally agree with you...