Hot shot question

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by pumpkinishere, Nov 22, 2022.

  1. pumpkinishere

    pumpkinishere Heavy Load Member

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    So our brother is leased on to our company as a hot shot. He has had a total of 3 inspections and this is his 2 nd month driving under our authority. The inspection he got today officer said he pulled him in because his truck said leased to but dot officer said it should be “operated by”. This inspection took place in Iowa. His previous inspections one in Tennessee and one in Washington state did not have a problem of the wording on the side of his truck. Just wondered how any other hotshotters are doing it. If their trucks are for example abc LLC leased to 123 or if they put abc LLC “operated by 123.
     
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  3. Lite bug

    Lite bug Road Train Member

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    When I started out I just had the guys numbers, and name on my truck. Another guy from Georgia had his name and leased to the same guy. My nephew has his company name on his door and the guy he is leased to on his fuel tank ( big truck ). I don’t believe it has anything to do with being a pickup and trailer though. Being a hotshot will be pulled in more frequently.
     
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    pumpkinishere Heavy Load Member

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    Yes we just didn’t understand why IA is saying it needs to be “operated by” verses leased to. I guess we may have to find the definitive answer on this or have him not go to Iowa or just change the letters to say “operated by”. I’m certain I have seen many many hot shots out here with leased to on the side of their truck
     
  5. pumpkinishere

    pumpkinishere Heavy Load Member

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    He has his company name
    Then leased to our company name
    Than the us dot number.
     
  6. pumpkinishere

    pumpkinishere Heavy Load Member

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    IA dot says that leased to needs to read “operated by” so today he got a warning on this so we sure don’t want him to get a ticket. But yes, hot shots are pulled in and messed with way more than semi drivers.
     
  7. Lite bug

    Lite bug Road Train Member

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    Sometimes these guys simply don’t know and misinterpret.
     
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    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Because that's what the regulations state. The words "operated by" are part of the regs. Just because only one leo has been picky about it doesn't mean others won't be.

    Fmcsa 390.21(b)(3).
    Federal Register :: Request Access
    If the name of any person other than the operating carrier appears on the CMV, the name of the operating carrier must be followed by the information required by paragraphs (b)(1), and (2) of this section, and be preceded by the words “operated by.”
     
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  9. pumpkinishere

    pumpkinishere Heavy Load Member

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    I’m wondering if this is a question OOIDA could help me with or if I should just call a few hot shot companies and inquire how they have it on their o/o equipment. Idk. I was going to try calling today was got hung up at receiver.
     
  10. pumpkinishere

    pumpkinishere Heavy Load Member

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    Thank you for the clarification. That sums it up. No phone calls need to be made. Thank you for sharing.
     
  11. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Edit: some other clarifications were made in previous posts above while I was typing this reply.

    I doubt its so much "Iowa" as it is the "I'm knowledgeable!" IDOT officer.

    I had a sign on my truck one time that the old hag in the Kansas weigh station didn't like & she had a discussion with another older male DOT officer about what she could give me a citation for. They really couldn't come up with any specific code but she went on & on with her attitude saying there is some regulation somewhere that says something about "unauthorized signage or labeling or something".
    While she was aggravated at me about the sign, she was even more frustrated that they couldn't come up with the code about illegal displaying of something, that she could write me a ticket for.

    You didn't say if the driver got a ticket for it.... that'd be your general answer right there.
    We've all seen DOT guys come up with some off the wall, nit picking codes. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. But, I hope someone here can give you a technical answer to give you some peace of mind.
     
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