I believe what I'm going to do it just go ahead and pay for something like truckersedge for a month just to get an idea of what Freight is moving around for the Hotshot expedited world.
Hotshot I don't get it.
Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by Gonzo1300, Jan 31, 2018.
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Gonzo, what part of the country are you located? The load board is something once established is not used all the time. You want people calling you. You want to pick and choose where you go and what you carry. I live in Columbus Oh. If the choice comes up everything being same ( pay, weight, difficulty of load tarp etc ) of going to Chicago or New York City I am going to Chicago area everytime. I am getting loaded out of Chicago right back to Ohio. Using that example because it is easy to understand. Starting out some of the big box brokers will not use you until you have been in business for a while. IMHO one of the pluses of having a dispatcher with many customers. I do not want to be chasing the loads I want them to find me. When I get out I try to let people that I have worked with before know I am in the area. What works for me may not work for everyone. Everyone’s situation is different. Starting out I tried to get every load I could, and go everywhere. Some places that I liked to go Florida ( in the winter ) did not have a lot of outbound freight on the load board. I used to carry bank vault doors down to Florida they paid good enough to get out. Now I would look and get lucky sometimes. The other thing about the load board it has loads incoming and outgoing. You can look at and know which part of the country is producers and which are consumers. Ideally shipping from producers to producers.
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Gonzo, you said in a previous post that you know Hotshot loads pay less. That’s not true, unless you’re just taking what’s posted on load boards, posted at low rates. Truth be told, the Hotshot loads we move typically pay substantially more than what most semi truck loads pay. If we weren’t making more profit running a hotshot, we wouldn’t be running a hotshot. I ran semi trucks for over 20 years before switching out to Hotshot style trucks.
Something you need to know is, when you’re looking at a load board, the rate a piece of freight, or full load is posted for isn’t necessarily the rate that we will be moving it for. If we see a piece of freight, or lite weight full load that peaks our interest, we pick up the phone and try to negotiate with the Broker that has it for more money.
A lot of Brokers post low rates hoping somebody that doesn’t understand the business very well will take it. If they take it for the low rate, the Broker makes more money on the load. Here’s a tip, never haul a load if at the very “minimum” the rate doesn’t cover your operating cost, fair driver pay, and a modest company profit. If the rate doesn’t cover this, tell the Broker sorry I’d be going in the hole at the rate you’re offering. Be polite about it because a lot of times the Broker will call you back and pay you what you need.
And don’t get me wrong here. I’m not saying bid your minimum on every load, always try to get as much as possible. This is where experience makes a huge difference in this business. If you know the freight trends on the lane the load is traveling, and they’re not that good. Be sure to bid the load at a higher rate to make up for lower rates on available outbound loads, or bid it to cover a possible deadhead getting you to a area where there’s better options available. -
Flatbedcarrier you are correct that is the only guesstimate I guess we will make up a word today was going by what was available if I don't have my own customers at the start. My biggest worry is the first year before I have a customer base we're if I was not using a dispatch service that's where I would have to go to get moving.
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Lite bug. I'm in upstate South Carolina. I have never minded honestly where I go except for Mexico and California. As long as there's some kind of freight coming back you know. Heck I'm in Canada anywhere between Detroit and Montreal once a month. Right now I'm in Dover Delaware fixing to head to West Virginia then back down to South Carolina. I think as far as what I see is of course it would be best for me with not having customers yet to get started would be using a dispatch service or something like that. The first year is what I see is going to be the real tricky part just to stay afloat until a customer base is setup. Like this post earlier with people saying there's no money in it and all that good stuff I just looked through the want ads for the southeast and there are a ton of people hiring hotshot driver so I would say 85% of the information you get when you ask someone especially on here is no money. Honestly it kind of makes you wonder what some people call money. I personally like running these little trucks. I'm six foot tall. With the little set up I got it takes about 10 minutes to cover the windows the way I like it done because I do like to drive at night if possible and I get it dark as hell in this little truck. I have a course the back seat taken out couldn't covered some plywood with the indoor outdoor carpet so it did not mess anything up bought some medium firmness memory foam outside of Detroit cut to the size that I wanted and and I sleep just fine. You can get in and out of places a lot better and tolls are cheaper. I kind of like being in a niche business. With the little company that I'm with now I will leave out and be on the road anywhere between 4 to 7 days and then home for three or four because we have a load rotation with the company trucks that are there. When I took the job I was worried about that but I #### sure honestly make good money with all these days off. Well I see no point in not hiding it. I charge by the day because most of these companies like these guys get scared to death to pay any more than $0.35 a mile and I just was not going to do that. I charge $225 a day so it's not a terrible check once I take taxes out I could run twice as much or take the out west loads and make more butt I never wanted to do that my father and grandfather and live in a truck and watch your family disappear.
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I just thought about it sorry about the long post I just think if you got something to say say it LOL. We might end up with the longest average post thread on the site before it's over with LOL
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This is the little set up that we run now this is the truck that is plated for 26,000. Again I'm about empty but this is a double stack trailer that hold 10 on the lower rack and 11 on top. We have two more trailers that's welded up the same way except they are 40 foot long with single stack.
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