How come

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by tonycr, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    I'm going to say something here that will come across as racial profiling. Probably because it is. But its something that I feel is true.

    I worked construction for the better part of 15 yrs. I ran crews and put guys in the positions that I felt they would be most productive in. As such,. if we had some off road trucks or end dumps and scrapers,.. I knew I could put a spanish guy in that machine or truck and he would have it down to a science in a matter of a day.

    With that said,.. I have never met a Mexican or someone from say Guatemala or Nicaragua that couldnt drive a truck like he was born to do it. So it always bothered me to see these guys working in positions that were more laborious and aggravating things that white people dont want to do. Spanish guys for the most part would make fantastic truck drivers.

    The best I can surmise as to why there are not more spanish immigrant truck drivers is because they are staunch family men. They would rather swing a sledge hammer at a brick wall all day than be away from their family OTR. This is just my opinion of course. But if we are profiling immigrants,.. this is an observation and opinions I have made long long ago.

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  3. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    My experience with Mexican immigrants had been the exact opposite. Just a little father south if you down here we have a very high population of migrant workers. Most of them being undocumented. In the off picking seasons, whenever I need a hand on the farm I can drive by one of the restaurants and get a guy or two, paying cash of course. I have yet to find one that can use the tractor to mow and not tear down a hundred feet of fence in the process, or find a stump to get the mower hung up on. . But every one of them will put in a hard day's work as long as it's just basic labor.

    I'm by no means suggesting someone from Mexico can't have the brain power to operate a tractor or truck. it's more of, just like anyone, from anywhere, a person has skills from things they have experience with, or even basic opportunity to learn. There are vast areas of our world where the average guy has never been around motorized equipment, or even had the opportunity to drive a car. using Mexico as an example, a guy from one if the few urban areas will know how to drive a truck, and a good chance he can operate a dozer. But most of the country isn't urban. There is many more that have never been behind the wheel of a car, let alone a truck or heavy equipment.

    My experience with trying to find a capable hand had led me to the conclusion, that none of us are born to do anything, we are a product of what we grew up around. The things we are around when we are young sets up what our brains can absorb when we are older. That whole can't teach an old dog new tricks saying, is very accurate.
     
  4. zinita17601

    zinita17601 Road Train Member

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    Please read the whole thread before replying,the guy said people come here TEMPORARELY drive a truck for a few months than go back,thats impossible.
     
  5. zinita17601

    zinita17601 Road Train Member

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    These guys u talking about went thru the immigration process of getting a green card and applying for citizenship,a process that takes a minimum of 5 years.u dont just get a visa to come here jump in a truck make tons of cash and fly back and then repeat the process.
     
  6. zinita17601

    zinita17601 Road Train Member

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    I agree with you many people get their cdl illegally but they only represent maybe 5% of the driving force in this country,we cant blame them for the falling rates and the current market situation.
     
  7. misterG

    misterG Road Train Member

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    Nope. We sure can't, what we have to place that blame on is the market. People will only pay so much for anything. The sky isn't the limit. If you need to make so much to make a profit, but the next guy can do it for less. Find a way to beat him. Its called competition. It works.
     
  8. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Oh I've read the whole and posted in it several times. Now it's quite possible I have misunderstood everyones intent, but consider ing everyone spoke of immigrants, not illegal immigrants, I believe they were speaking of people here legally.
    it's certainly not a five year process. I have many serbian and Ukrainian neighbors here in town, some of them driving trucks, and from conversation I've had with them, none of them suggested the process they went through for legal immigration status was either long, or tedious.
     
  9. zinita17601

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    Upon arrival to the united states,any legal immigrant is granted a two year temporarily green card,after the two years immigration issue a 5 year permanent green card given the immigrant meet certain criterias,paying taxes comes first in the list of criterias.no immigrant will japordise his legal status by cheating on his taxes during this period cause he can still be deported.after three years of having the permanent green card the immigrant become eligible to apply for citizenship and again immigration will ask for tax transcripts from the irs.is illegal for a company to pay an employee as a contractor but im not sure the employee can get in trouble for accepting wages on a 1099.
     
  10. spyder7723

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    Ok.. so what exactly are you argueing? are you saying that they can't leave the country with a temporary green card? Or are you saying that they can't get a cdl on a green card? Not trying to be obtuse here but I'm not following your line of logic. And asking for clarification on your earlier post stating that what rc and others described as being impossible.
     
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