How to make a truck lighter

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Blkcowboy, Jun 21, 2018.

  1. DougA

    DougA Road Train Member

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    Back in the 60's,70's Esso Exon Tankers specced out their tractors as light as I've seen. Started with IHC DC 400,or later 4200 day cab conventionals,fiberglass hoods. Aluminum frame,all aluminum wheels,one fuel tank. Single drive with tag axle,fixed fifth wheel,V-6 Detroit,9 speed. No passenger seat,no radio,no ashtray or lighter. Weighed in around 12k iirc. Load the same amount of gas,every trip,stay right under 73,280. I was surprised they did use an electric starter. Most big fleets,like Roadway,CF,still used an air starter,and one battery. Saved a lot of weight,not carrying multiple batteries,heavy starter,parallel switch,and cables.
     
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  3. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    240" WB, 2-stack Mack (steel cab) with a Mack (triple countershaft) 18 speed transmission, Mack rears, 2 PTO's, wet kit, tool box stuffed w/tools, another tool box (and the cab) stuffed with equipment, 4 tire chains, steel wheels on the drives (aluminum steers), and 16-ply 11R24.5 tires all of the way around.

    It adds up...

    Used to work with a guy that had (still has) a beautifully hopped up 379 extended hood with a built 3406B putting down more power than anyone really needs. It had a fairly decent wheelbase, and probably a 60" flat top sleeper.

    Pulling identical pneumatic trailers, he was 2000# lighter than me. That was when I had a blower (which he also had) on the 2nd PTO, and before I added the 2nd tool box and stuffed the cab with all of the flatbedding gear.
     
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  4. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    At what point does durability start getting sacrificed for weight savings? Is it really worth shaving 1000lbs off a truck if it'll bust a frame rail after 2 years?
     
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  5. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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  6. mtoo

    mtoo Road Train Member

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    We found the light weight truck!!!
     
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  7. Blkcowboy

    Blkcowboy Light Load Member

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    my intial idea was to get a tri axle with a 120k gvwr but i dont intend on specializing in overweight per say if its paying ill haul it if it paying more than the general freight in the area ill haul it.with that being said i also dont want to miss out on general freight by being to heavy to haul it some guys set a max weight me i dont care as long as it pays i aiming for versatility .....i want to set myself up to be home more often with big paying loads being the only exception i figure the versatile i can be the more those opportunity will present itself
     
  8. Blkcowboy

    Blkcowboy Light Load Member

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    almost seems impossible to do i decided to get more precise and add up all the equipment weight
    12 chains = 360lbs
    10 coil racks=57lbs
    6 beleved lumber=213lbs
    22 straps=132lbs
    12 binders= 120lbs
    300 Gallons of fuel=2100/1050 cut to half
    tarps=240lbs
    Apu= 415lbs
    Driver=225
    2 spare tires and rims=200
    Tool box=300

    another 350 added just in case

    comes out to be 4712 in Gear
     
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  9. BUMBACLADWAR

    BUMBACLADWAR Road Train Member

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    Oh,lets see...Yank that pesky "passenger (jump seat outta there),tire chains etc.I have a "Sawzall",if you need to borrow it.
     
  10. Ridgeline

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    You got it all twisted. If you are worried about chasing all freight then you need to reevaluate your game plan.
     
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  11. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Find an older w9 and rebuild the motor. My 97 is around 18.5k with half full tanks, I don't have any chains or all that stuff in it, a kw or pete hood is going to be difficult to keep below 20k with a lot of stuff in the truck and full tanks.
     
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