How to pay owner op

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  1. Jul 12, 2018 #1
    Tmichael2332

    Tmichael2332 Light Load Member

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    I’ve never done oversized or heavy haul but the new company I’m with would like to get me started on it in the next couple months. They’ve never had an owner op do it before and I’m clueless so I don’t know what to look for or ask for pay wise. I’d assume It’d still be percentage but a percentage of what?
    They just did a “million dollar move” last week as one of the drivers called it. Obviously there’s much more cost for pilots, permits, cranes, ect. Out of the “million dollars” what would the linehaul be? It was a 450k lbs vessel that went 30ish miles of that helps. Mainly they haul transformers.

    Any and all insight with the financial side of things will be greatly appreciated and any other helpful tidbits too. I’ve been driving 5 years all open deck so I’m not completely green. Just clueless about the heavy haul side.
     
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  3. Jul 12, 2018 #2
    Gunner75

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    My company has several owner ops and we haul a lot of oversize. Not necessarily heavy haul although we do haul some heavy. On the o/o side, the company gives the owner 65% of the billed freight using the company trailers. They set up the escorts, high poles, police escorts, utilities, everything. Maintainance is handled by the company.

    Ive also been told that ATS is similar when it comes to how much the other gets from the build freight.
     
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  4. Jul 12, 2018 #3
    Rontonio

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    The percentage should be based on after permits and pilots and police. Those cost do not change based who pays for them. If they are providing the trailer then they are entitled they a percentage of the detention pay as well.
     
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  5. Jul 13, 2018 #4
    Kshaw0960

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    My company pays us 85% and we have our own trailers.

    For oversize for example let's say it pays $15,000. We get $12,750 and things like permits and escorts come from our pocket.
     
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  7. Jul 18, 2018 #5
    Caterpillar Cowboy

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    I get paid 100% of my hourly rate. Most often in the form of a check.

    When I set my hourly rate I figure it so my customers can make a mark up on their end and still be fair for all sides.
     
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  8. Jul 24, 2018 #6
    xsetra

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    Subscribe to a load boRd and study the rates.
    Call on a few loads and haggle a little.
    Good luck.
     
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