I don't understand exactly

1) First of all, if anyone IS here legally, then there's a good chance they are not a "foreigner" anymore; Why don't we just call them "New Americans?"

a) If they have visa/ permanent resident/resident alien status, then yes, maybe you can call still them "foriegn", but that's not what you originally meant........ (yes, i'm calling you out)


2) Having good credit helps; It doesn't take much to get authority and a used truck if you have some cash and good credit. Some people that come to this country actually have a little money or the ability to send for it "back home."

a) i don't think buying a used truck is that much harder than buying a new car. Anyone can pretty much do it provided their credit is not screwed up.

3) mentality:

a) Notice how you NEVER see F'up immigrants; While not every immigrant may have their act completely together, what all of them have is the DESIRE to suceed. You NEVER see legal immigrants asking for handouts, going on welfare etc.

b) i think that moving to a completely different country is such a big step in life that buying a truck doesn't seem so daunting in comparison. So, in this way the immigrant may actually have a mental advantage as compaired to a native born american.

 

one time i was down in virginia at a pilot (Forgot which city but its the one with the hellhole werner yard LOL, ended up parked next to these mexican owner ops. Two guys had this really nice w900 with a studio sleeper and were working on the truck (just general maintenance). great guys even spoke better english than most americans.

I wish more of these foreign truckers were like that. Seems like most of these guys make no effort at all to learn english, and take absolutely no pride in their POS trucks, etc, you know...

 

My buddy PR worked three jobs when he first came here from Bosnia. He saved up every penny he could and paid cash for his first truck. It was a big POS but it ran.

 

What I don't understand is how many O/O's or independent operators who are foreigners. Obviously they got their experience out of country. But where do they get their funding for their authority, truck payments, etc.? It seems hard enough for an American citizen to go through all this and become an O/O.
I just wonder how they're getting all this funding, apparently. It used to be that new immigrants qualified for business loans to help them get started. I don't know if this is still the case. That's my only guess.[/QUOTE]

I can't speak for others, however, I am first generation, my parents coming here in the 30's (father) and after the war (mother).
There were 10 children in my family and we lived in a 900 sq ft house, one bathroom with two of my cousins families. All told we had 22 people living in that house.
My folks called it "the big house" since it was the largest of the the homes they had lived in.
And before you bash the 'tenement' lifestyle, the yard was clean, the house well kept (on the outside) and there was never any problem.
The men used public transportation to work, each worked two or three jobs and shared one car (or at least in the early 50's it was one).
As they amassed cash, each family purchased their own house (next door, down the street) and we continued to help each other.
I didn't know this wasn't the way things were done everywhere until I was in high school. (I am #4 of the 10).
Everyone lived very basic, did not spend money for vacations, etc. Each of us kids delivered newspapers and did gardening work for money to purchase our own clothes, bicycles,etc.
My father and uncles pooled money to purchase a restaraunt, then later a truck (which we bought and sold wholesale vegetables from), an a college education for the third uncle who ended up a mucky muck for a government agency.
So the short answer is we lived very basically, pooled our monies and saved for our future.
My siblings and cousins have done much the same for each other, however we live in our own houses, many of us in the same neighborhoods, provided for our parents retirement and taught our children the pride of hard work, co operation and serving the Lord.

 

I can't speak for others, however, I am first generation, my parents coming here in the 30's (father) and after the war (mother).
There were 10 children in my family and we lived in a 900 sq ft house, one bathroom with two of my cousins families. All told we had 22 people living in that house.
My folks called it "the big house" since it was the largest of the the homes they had lived in.
And before you bash the 'tenement' lifestyle, the yard was clean, the house well kept (on the outside) and there was never any problem.
The men used public transportation to work, each worked two or three jobs and shared one car (or at least in the early 50's it was one).
As they amassed cash, each family purchased their own house (next door, down the street) and we continued to help each other.
I didn't know this wasn't the way things were done everywhere until I was in high school. (I am #4 of the 10).
Everyone lived very basic, did not spend money for vacations, etc. Each of us kids delivered newspapers and did gardening work for money to purchase our own clothes, bicycles,etc.
My father and uncles pooled money to purchase a restaraunt, then later a truck (which we bought and sold wholesale vegetables from), an a college education for the third uncle who ended up a mucky muck for a government agency.
So the short answer is we lived very basically, pooled our monies and saved for our future.
My siblings and cousins have done much the same for each other, however we live in our own houses, many of us in the same neighborhoods, provided for our parents retirement and taught our children the pride of hard work, co operation and serving the Lord.[/QUOTE]

It's what I call The American Way

 

Versus jumping the fence and having Uncle Sugar hand out welfare; Give them free housing; Educate their children for free....

 

What housing and welfare programs can an illegal immigrant qualify for?

 

And in California.....to ask for proof of citizenship in the purchase of real estate is illegal....(All that is required is proof of employment, Driver's License, and a SS#...which falsified SS Cards [and Falsified Driver's licenses] can be had for $50 at L.A.'s MacArthur Park)....Hence the high percentage of sub-prime loans made to illegals in the I.E.....

Fontana, CA was "Ground Zero" when the sub-prime loans reset and over half of the homes there went into foreclosure....Fontana has the second highest amount of illegals...second only to Ontario, CA....Which over half of the city's population are suspected of being "Undocumented"....Ontario is also like Malibu, Santa Barbara, and San Francisco...all are "Sanctuary Cities"....

The big tip-off should have been the potential mortgagees generally worked in low paying jobs.....typical of illegals....and yet the banks still ( at the stern urging of Barney Frank) made loans to these high risk individuals....

 

One other thing to consider- many immigrants from Europe or the Middle East come to the U.S. with large amounts of money to their name and can often use some of it to go pay cash for a decent used truck after paying for a house. It costs a lot more to live where they came from and their money will go a lot further here by comparison.