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Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by Timin770, Oct 19, 2021.

  1. Night Stalker10

    Night Stalker10 Road Train Member

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    Well in a nutshell you are just splitting hairs like Ridge said. I'm not going to try and defend a radio that I don't own. I'm just sharing what others have said. I personally would never spend a few hundred dollars on a new radio, and then pay a tech another few hundred dollars to replace all the caps just to talk on the CB band. If those new caps were that bad, I wouldn't buy the radio in the first place.
    It was mentioned that the only distortion was running the mic gain clear up with the NPC on. I know some guys try to push the limit with the negative peaks when it comes to modulation. I don't, I always set my radios to 100 percent modulation, and the power to the legal limit, and the audio looks great on my scope. So the NPC feature on this radio would be worthless to me. If there's any intermodulation distortion (with NPC off), there's no way the human ear is going to detect it.
    As far as frequency in the audio spectrum, granted the human voice is weaker compared to other audio signals. But the human voice is between 500 to 2500 hertz and mostly centered around 1000 hertz. So again the human ear won't notice (or even care) if you manage to talk at 2850 hertz. To be honest I feel this is just another form of snake oil to get the publics money.
    Forty to fifty years ago you could buy a new radio and not have to pay a tech to supposably make it better. You just simply enjoyed your new radio, and I think this new Anytone radio is bringing back that old time experience in that respect. This is the first export radio I think would be a great radio to own. Why? Because no tech needed. Ha.
     
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  3. rabbiporkchop

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    Neither would I. If all I cared about was sounding like the average person at 5 mi away I would just use it right out of the box
    Nobody said anything about caps being bad.
    Sometimes what you don't hear is the problem, especially at great distances.
    The letter S is approximately 5000 hertz.
    With a stock radio, sometimes it's difficult to hear the difference between the letter s and the letter f.
    I wouldn't say fidelity is snake oil. There's nothing worse than having to repeat yourself because someone didn't understand what you were saying even though they heard you just fine. Forry, wrong number I
    You can still do that today, however, in this era of MOSFET transistors, you're probably better off buying a small single final radio, Or if you need more power, you should invest in a high power hem radio and avoid "export" radios.
     
  4. Night Stalker10

    Night Stalker10 Road Train Member

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    Sorry, everything you just said are not valid reasons to fatten a technicians pockets, at least not to me. It's mostly sales gimmicks. As far as new capacitors being bad, i didn't mean they are physically bad, because they aren't. They work just fine or there would be a lot of radio companies going out of business due to returns. I love how you twist the meaning of the words people say. No need to spend a bunch more money on a brand new radio replacing caps just because a tech says so.
    So who told you that the letter S is 5000 hertz? Mark? Not everybody sounds like michael jackson when they talk. Your a little high according to this link, it's more like 2khz to 4khz, again splitting hairs.

    Facts about speech intelligibility: human voice frequency range

    On the unidens and cobra radios I've worked on, I can see the signal has a sizzling look on the scope while saying the letter S with the modulation at 100%. Again the audio looks great even with the original caps. The key to good audio is the microphone. Plus a good radio voice. I doubt replacing capacitors on a new radio will change that. Speaking of microphones, the best sounding stock mikes I've used are the older uniden bearcat that are gray and silver, and the galaxy mike that resembles the old coffin style (but rounded) with the metal black screen. This mike came with my galaxy 959. These microphones make a stock radio set at 100% modulation sound just as good as hard drives radios.

    I agree with your last statement. All the money you put into an export radio from Mr. fine tune would buy you a nice ham radio. I've been on this forum for awhile now, but I still don't know how to break down the conversations into pieces to reply to. I can see where it's easier to read as far as the subject matter goes. Someday I'll figure it out
     
  5. Ridgeline

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    Well here we go again, look rabbi, it is simple


    For out of the box performance, the radio has good clarity, the receive is good and so is the features.

    now for the average person, this is a good buy.

    for those who want more out of a radio … albeit a cb … then they can choose something else.

    As for mark trying to bless it with his god like fingers, I don’t see much if any improvement.

    Why do you guys always try to compare it to a ham radio, like one of the rice burners?

    compare it to radios which were intended to be used on am.
     
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  6. rabbiporkchop

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    74 mi barefoot out of a Freightliner cascadia can hardly be considered a gimmick.
    Why would anybody need to tell me when I can simply use a scientific tool to measure the sound and tell me what frequency that sound occurs at?
    What's your definition of looking great?
    Without sweeping every frequency within the entire audio spectrum, you would have no way of knowing because you would need to sweep it very slowly and look for distortion at every single frequency within the audio spectrum, which would take you a very long time to do.
    Just because it looks great at a thousand hertz means absolutely nothing at every other frequency within the audio spectrum.
    If the radio is incapable of reproducing sounds at various frequencies without distortion, it doesn't matter what microphone you plug into the radio. The key to good audio is a proper tune, but you're not going to get that with mismatched final transistors. This is precisely why a single final CB radio is the best choice for most people.
    Since you lack the skill to eliminate the distortion from that anytone radio it means you don't have the skills to see the improvements.
    You must first know what you're looking at in order to be qualified to judge somebody's work.
    A good technician can make an export radio outperform any ham radio.
     
  7. Ridgeline

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    Rabbi, we have been down this road several times, when you achieve the level of education and experience I have, you can judge me and my skills.

    Until then I can judge other people's work,

    I can see where there is a good out-of-the-box rig, and doesn't need to have the tinkering of a "tech".

    While I agree with some here and on other forums about some things but not everything.

    AND?

    You and a few others think that ham radios are the pinnacle of radio technology when they are not.
     
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    Did Rabbi just call you a dummy.............again? Wow!

    JD
     
  9. Ridgeline

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    He has a lot of times but he is a good guy so I let him slide.

    Just came back from a swap near here. While my kid and I were walking around, she spotted a cb on the table and pointed it out. It had a tag on it "$400 Mark Sherman worked on it, so it is special". I think it was a galaxy, there was a guy buying it and I got to see the tag before the seller took it off.
     
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    Was there a glow/aura around it? Did the angels sing?

    JD
     
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  11. Night Stalker10

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    Yes we all know about your 74 miles contact while sitting still on a mountain, possibly up 4000 feet or more. Plus not using a real CB radio but an export radio talking about 70 watts SSB. I know height and band conditions have more to do with that contact, then the radio. But I've already said this before.
    I challenge you to come to the mid west and re-create this great feat here on the flat lands. Yes you can use your high powered wanna be ham radio too. You seem to expect others to do it with their radios, in the current location they might be in. Maybe you should show them how it's done. Oh wait ...this was a one time event, nevermind.

    EDIT: I'm not trying to be a jerk, just trying to state facts. Plus I'm not going to respond to the distortion comments, it doesn't matter anyway.
     
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