i need advice from a professional

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by jimmysr, Nov 6, 2010.

  1. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    Didn't know that.

    I would've thought, with all the dumb laws in the trucking world, that if a strap was twisted it would reduce the rating. Thats what I get for thinking...
     
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  3. rookietrucker

    rookietrucker Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I seen a guy pulling a heavy duty gooseneck trailer yesterday on I-35. Fully loaded with 6" square and round steel. He only had straps across the top of the load. Not one belly strap anywhere on the load. On the square steel, I could clearly see only one strap touching the top of the steel. He could have killed someone. :biggrin_25513:
     
  4. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    They will let anyone haul steel now a days. Its sad!
     
  5. Lowbed

    Lowbed Light Load Member

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    The strap does lose strenght. Just take a piece of paper strip and twist it, in order to remain at equal strenght for the full width of the strap, it shouldn't have a twist in it. Hold the piece of paper tight at both ends and twist, the paper will tear starting at the outside edges because that's where all the strain is going to.


    Here's a link you might like.

    http://www.ashleysling.com/ns2.htm
     
  6. Old Man

    Old Man Road Train Member

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    Very few use belly straps. One hard stop and they will learn.
     
  7. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    Thanks for the replies. The reason I asked about the load rating is my experience on the fire department with ropes. We had both natural fiber and synthetic rope. Our synthetic load bearing rope was usually Kevlar kernmantle rope. There were certain knots not recommended for synthetics because they would decrease the load capacity. We had to use a figure 8 knot or a variation thereof on it, where, with natural fiber ropes, we could just tie it in a knot, but keep it away from the fire itself. We eventually got completely away from natural fiber and went to nylon and Kevlar.

    But I was taught that for every knot tied, reduce the capacity by half. It didn't apply to the figure 8s because they aren't true knots.

    With straps, though, I would think if there's a twist, it stretches the outer edges ever so slightly, placing the bulk of the load there and thus not utilizing the full capacity of the strap. Or my physics are off a bit. (I already know my physique is...)
     
  8. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    I don't know about your physique but I do agree with your physics. Thats what I thought but wasn't sure and being that I don't let me straps get twisted and everything I haul is hidden, I never worried about it.
     
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  9. paul 1052

    paul 1052 Heavy Load Member

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    I don't see anything there about a twist... am I missing something? I can be pretty good at that.

    Just this:

    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
    Physical Factors Effecting Strength

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    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]TEMPERATURE[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]IMPROPER LOADING [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]CUTS, PUNCTURES,
    ABRASIONS
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    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Web Slings [/FONT]
    Nylon & polyester are seriously degraded at temperatures above
    200°F.​
    Shock loading, unbalanced
    loading, over loading and
    inadequate consideration for the effect of angle factors can adversely effect strength.​
    Any of these can seriously degrade sling strength. Red core yarns can aid in locating
    damaged webbing.​
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Roundslings [/FONT]
    Being polyester, is seriously degraded at temperatures above 200°F. ​
    Shock loading, unbalanced loading, over loading and inadequate consideration for the effect of angle factors can adversely effect strength.​
    When the sleeve on a roundsling has been damaged so that the inner load bearing yarns can be exposed, the sling MUST be discarded. ​
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Web Slings [/FONT]
    FOREIGN MATTER
    Material such as metal chips, weld splatter, heavy grit, etc. can damage a web sling both internally and externally​
    ULTRAVIOLETLIGHT
    Nylon & polyester web slings are adversely affected by prolonged exposure to UV light, i.e. sunlight or arc welding.​
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Roundslings [/FONT]
    Material such as metal chips, weld splatter, heavy grit, etc. can damage the Roundsling's cover.​
    Relatively uneffected by UC light​
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
    CAUTION
    DO NOT EXCEED RATED CAPACITIES
    [/FONT]​
     
  10. Kittyfoot

    Kittyfoot Crusty Ancient

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    You will find all kinds of odd practices in trucking that are done "because I've always done it this way" to the completely inane "how I secure my load is nobody else's business".
     
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  11. rockee

    rockee Road Train Member

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    I am not an experienced flatbedder like alot of you but I have put a twist in my straps to prevent slapping and flapping. You guys might have a point about more stress at the edges where the twist is but then again, maybe it's not enough stress to amount to anything. I would think some of these manufactures of strapping would have done tests for this sort of stuff.
     
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