I think ELDs are Unconstitutional

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Thane, Dec 7, 2017.

  1. Moving Forward

    Moving Forward Heavy Load Member

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    Absolutely right, but the outlaw truckers are sick with greed and will never believe that concept. It's time for the to retire and get off the roads!
     
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  3. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    What people need to learn is loads should no be so tight on time that getting in a traffic jam should not make a load late. That's what the ELD will show, just how little extra time drivers don't have.

    They will now be forced to give drivers more time to finish the run, even if their is a traffic jam. Drivers and running legal will now become first priority. The way it should be !
     
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  4. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Problem is, a lot of the issues you and others will try and blame on eLogs and HOS rules will ultimately be the result of poor trip planning and time management on the driver's part and could have been avoided altogether. So, it's a two-way street. Frankly, some drivers just don't have sufficient grey matter to know how to fully manage their time and their HOS clock throughout a trip with appointments at both ends, especially with longer trips.

    So it's often a matter of poor time management and/or a driver refusing to drive all available hours allowed them in a given day. If a load requires 4 days of 10.5 hours driving at 63 mph each day, and the driver started with plenty of hours, then that's what it requires. If the driver only wants to drive 9.5 hours each day, the load is going to be late. And that's an HOS rules or eLog's fault?
     
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  5. Pumpkin Oval Head

    Pumpkin Oval Head Road Train Member

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    It is my understanding that the right to not incriminating yourself only exists in a court when you are on trial and only applies to your verbal testimony.
     
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  6. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    What's a long trip, you truckload guys don't get that multiple drop loads are darned near impossible to plan reliably. It is changing, they are getting things more possible, but less profitable for the driver.

    Anywho, we have regular loads going from northeast Iowa to Miami, and no takers, seems no teams willing to take and elogs and Florida, and everywhere else for that matter make on time impossible to predict in the time frame given. The regular guy has made his last run.

    I did it once, and I'm not a fan of the SE. Got a 34 waiting for a reload near hotlanta which thentook the whole day to accomplish then hoof it back to the Twin Cities, which I delivered, the regular guy seldom delivered, wouldn't do this and wouldn't do that. Bleep.

    Screwed up my next week because my planned backhaul couldn't ship, they didn't have a contract for further regular deliveries. They finally let me know 2 hours after I got there that it wouldn't ship that day.not that it wouldn't ship at all.

    That's what trucking is, dispatch pulling their hair out, customers fouling up, brokers giving wrong info, and shippers not giving a bleep.

    I got the load there, logged legally and on time, and the customer said, "we weren't expecting you until tomorrow." So much for knowing how to get it done.
     
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  7. DoubleO7

    DoubleO7 Road Train Member

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    So, you falsify your logs. If a driver will be near Atlanta, extra time needs to be added to ETA and extra drive time figured in when trip planning.
     
  8. tucker

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  9. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Exactly there is not that many people killed by trucks every year for how many trucks there are running the roads.
     
  10. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Elogs or going to encourage speeding and I mean real speeding not 8 or 10 over the limit
     
  11. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Really you ever pull in Tulsa about 930 at night I think there's 3 truckstops in that whole city there's nowhere to park and it's gonna get worse
     
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