I think ELDs are Unconstitutional

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  1. Joetro

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    I asked someone at a Walmart DC why they didn't have anyplace for scheduled trucks to park. Her reply was that Walmart figures that the driver should plan his load to arrive right on time and not need a place to park when we get there. In other words, it's not their concern.
     
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  3. Oldironfan

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    Elog can be changed in the back office. And data link failures can happen at any moment. Better back up my elog with paper. Elog still need to be received as paper by DOT posts when asked. What a joke.
     
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  4. Pianoman

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    Then get with a company that doesn't do that crap. My company doesn't. Once I approve my logs it's done. If I have to ask them to change something, I have to approve them again after they change them.
     
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    If the log is changed, the original is kept in the system. That goes directly towards accountability.
    I've ran under elog since I started 3 years ago, only ran paper one time for 3 months with a #### ### company. Com links fail all the time. The logs aren't kept online, they are kept on the machine and backed up on the data base. I've never had a dot cop ask for my logs in paper, but if one does, every system allows for your logs to be emailed, or faxed to them.
     
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  6. Ristow

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    yeah i have considered it. i think i've considered it more than you have,based on your ATA cultivated perception of this ruling.

    i have a big problem with government lumping everyone together on the bottom denominator and then treating us as the same.

    like i said. it is the equivalent of putting an ankle bracelet on everyone,y'know just in case. blame the criminals for all of us having these.

    as far as accountability...next time we see where some idiot killed someone and the fmcsa were able to get heads out of their ###es and go investigate,you will see that carrier had a phone book of violations and nothing was done until somebody died. no,there is no accountability. there is however some easier revenue grabbing now.

    i can't recall one. the tracy morgan wreck would be the only one and i think that guy is not in jail...?


    this statement just really shows the pro government stance of the typical citizen these days. and it scares the #### out of me.


    722 truck fatalities last year. not that i dismiss 722 people dying,but come on,thats pretty impressively low in my book. all this regulation over 722 fatalities. yeah guys,them cowboys are out of control!! i think the democrats groped more women than that last year. 722. yep. its for safety.

    More people died crashing thier boats last year. seriously. is the light on yet guys????!!!

    lets talk in a year and see where that number goes.

    Truck-involved highway fatalities climbed in 2016, NTSB says
     
  7. Antinomian

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    That analogy doesn't really work. Gas pumps report what the station is selling to another individual. ELD's don't do that unless the driver is getting paid by the hour. Even then, they don't just record billable work time. They record time defined by a regulation as "on duty", etc.
     
  8. Ristow

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    how many lives would be saved if our government went after repeat DWI offenders with even half the regulatory fury they apply to trucks?

    what if we put drunks out of service? cuz a lotta these guys lawyer up and are back on the road in a few days.
     
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  9. Oldironfan

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    I don't have any problem with elog. I'm not using them.
     
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  10. Oldironfan

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    Soon nobody will be trained on paper logs. That's going to be something to deal with.
     
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  11. Joetro

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    If memory serves, that Walmart driver was running elogs and hadn't falsified, but was speeding in a construction zone to try and beat his clock. I might be mistaken, but I think he had something like 26 miles to go and 30 minutes on his clock. You see it all the time out here; drivers racing through parking lots and construction zones because they just don't have the time to slow down, in their minds.
     
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